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westerner wrote on Oct 21, 2009 10:15 PM:

" Trainwreck, Will Play and Lucy...you must be a threesome...I can't hardly beleive that all those blogs are being done during prime business hours..Most hard working folks don't have time to be resonding to political blogs...must be city employees of the great Nation of Payette. Hate..anger...perhaps your mirror is foggy....wipe it and look into it and you will see true anger and hate.....you may want to consider getting signed up with the next list counselor on the EAP.....your fog of anger is blinding you...good luck to all...chow "

concerned wrote on Oct 21, 2009 3:53 PM:

" westerner you really should find a new town to cause hate and discontent to because ours is much better than that and how dare you attack the fire dept, their chief and all the fireman when all they do is help the community and risk their lives every time you hear that siren so next time westerner and all you negative others out there think about that next time you hear that siren go off it might be somebody you care for or know that they are risking their lives for to HELP11!!!! "

trainwreck wrote on Oct 21, 2009 3:22 PM:

" hey westerner disagreeing and stupid are two diffrent things, I didn't realize you just had a disagreement . no this is not doug. would like to tell will play I think he is dead on. places of bussiness don't normaly take a public side for just the reason you state. there are more than one place to invest your money , eat, drink, or get your rv fixed. "

will play wrote on Oct 21, 2009 11:58 AM:

" Hey "westerner" i'll be your huckleberry! I've stopped in for coffee, and at times have been accused of being one of the good old boys. From my observations all I have seen is a group of people dedicated to the well being of our town, dedicated by time on the job and subjecting thier safety and families to people like you. You westerner on the other hand operate with in the shadows taking cheep shots at people who sacrificed there time and dedication to our community. Let's just get to it, this really is not about a fire station is it? As a matter of fact I beleive you are a left over from the old Klich days when they practiced hate and discontent.While were rolling in the dirt I would say your candidate had better hope he wins, things could get a little tough for him in the future. I can assure you some of the business supporting J.W will not go unnoticed. That is what this is really about isn't it "westerner" "

lucy wrote on Oct 21, 2009 9:09 AM:

" "Westerner"
I was told to check this blog out when I first wrote here. Sorry I wasn't more specific for you. Believe me I wouldn't want to be included in your circle of friends. Hate and anger only destroys a person with the hate and anger. Have no idea what the break at the fire department means. I still think nobody, I don't care who you are, should tear down a whole fire department because someone is angry over something. "

YEP. wrote on Oct 21, 2009 7:23 AM:

" Were glad you left too Wowie, stay gone! "

westerner wrote on Oct 21, 2009 1:42 AM:

" Hey Lucy, you were on the blog before, and you had to be reminded to look it up again...hummmmmmmm...well fact is you will never know who I am cause you are lucy baby....and I am sure we will never float in the same circles...cause I don't break at the fire department and you sweetie will never break with me......chow "

Greg wrote on Oct 20, 2009 9:40 PM:

" I would like to thank all of the people of Payette who have supported and continue to support the Payette Fire Department. I am proud of our city leaders, Chief Sand and everyone who worked hard on obtaining this grant. THANK YOU. "

Wowie wrote on Oct 20, 2009 8:52 PM:

" You Payette Peoples are about as shortsighted as the ones in Ontario. It's a grant for crying out loud! A GRANT. And if you voted no because you don't like Jeff Sands you are about as stupid as those who would not give Ontario a new school because they don't like Dennis Carter. Certainly glad I left . "

lucy wrote on Oct 20, 2009 10:50 AM:

" Someone told me to come to this blog and read some of these statements. I can't believe the stimulus money for a new fire station can stir up such character assassination. I think what this is really about, is the election for mayor. I think "Westerner" must be the person running for mayor or a close confidant. I think to put in print that our whole fire department has no regard for democracy is a disgrace to these men that risk their lives at times in fighting fires in our community. The other thing, no matter the outcome of this election, why would someone make statements that are threating to other city employees
of firing them if the mayor is replaced
I think there are other motives here for these threats. I see such anger here that saddens my heart. It is o.k. to express our opinon but it doesn't give the right to threaten people or even take the fire department and accuse the whole department of showing disregard for democracy.

anger "

westerner wrote on Oct 19, 2009 5:16 PM:

" Doug, Jeff Sands and all you fire department people have shown your disregard for demoracy. I find it funny that if anyone disagrees with you, they are STUPID, IDOTS, TRAINWRECKS...ect....Trainwreck (Doug is that you?) quit trying to bully the highly taxed people of Payette. You made a fatal error in going behind the peoples back. Congrats...the good news..there will be an election and the bully will be gone....and along with him so many unprofessional highly paid city employees....Oh and Doug, your sporty little 80's hair due is an indication that you not capable of doing what it takes to move this city forward..you are stuck on you.....chow "

broncozone wrote on Oct 18, 2009 9:47 PM:

" it really disturbs me that there are so many people in this town that have nothing better to do than complain,and nag maybe you should move your buts back to california or wherever you came from because we are a better community than that so i thought and CONGRATS TO JEFF SANDS MARY AND DOUG FOR THEIR EXTREME HARD WORK TO GET OUR TOWN A NEW FIRESTATION and anybody that doesnt think we need it is either blind or just stupid "

Amazed wrote on Oct 17, 2009 9:39 AM:

" WOW! You people are amazing. Obviously, you have never had to call on the fire department because your house is on fire, or have never had a loved one trapped in their car where only the jaws of life can save them. This grant is not about Chief Sands getting "his mansion"! Chief Sands just wants to have adequate facilities and equipment so that his department can function properly to serve our city. It is just sad to me that we live in such a negative community that chooses to make the issue a personal vendetta against an individual rather than being grateful for all of the hard work the person did to receive such a wonderful gift for our community. Good job Chief Sands! "

Lucy wrote on Oct 17, 2009 7:57 AM:

" All you people that are against taking the stimulus money because it comes from China. We have been borrowing from China for years. Republicans and democrats both did it. Are you going to protest and stay off the highways built by this money. When you go shopping look at the labels, are you going to stop buying the things because it comes from China, if so, lots of luck living like you have been doing. I guess Washington, D.C. kind of name calling and lying about each other has come Payette. I don't like the idea of China lending us money but there isn't anything you can do about it. Congress agreed to it all for the past years. "

trainwreck wrote on Oct 16, 2009 8:45 AM:

" hey vote them out, you just proved why stupid should be painful. the town did not vote the fire station down it was approved by the majority it just did't get the super majority.don't worry thou there is no law against stupid voting. "

Escaped wrote on Oct 16, 2009 6:16 AM:

" Hey Still watchin', I live in a city where our Fire Dept. is made up of well trained, highly professional public servents that would NEVER speak/dictate to the City Taxpayers, to whom they owe it all. The attitude of the WINNING TEAM is disgusting, all our questions are crappy ones.
Jeff Sands qoute puts it all in perspective. Any decent Chief would consider the loss of a child in a house fire his worst day, not this arrogant infant. His worst day was when the stuip citizens wouldn't give him his building. "

Its sad wrote on Oct 15, 2009 9:14 PM:

" you idiots let your egos get in your way. Like it or not Payette has grown and will continue to grow. Continuing to live in the past only hurts the entire community or not. Who CARES if you voted no. The money was a GRANT for crying out loud. for the betterment of the community.

The cow is in the barn. Learn how to milk it and think about the location. easy and quick access even to the slope. Remember, the station servers rural Payette not just the city limits.

I can just hear it now. "Hold your fire while I thaw the truck out" "

still watchin wrote on Oct 15, 2009 8:34 PM:

" Old timer quote me this, who on the council is not in favor of the grant? If there is a council person not supporting this they are lying to the voting public. Have them grow a back bone and get off the fence. Come on old timer get on the winning team. Its got to be depressing having your money on the slow horse. RV yea lets turn down 2 mill grant just so you can have a place to put your crap. Don't worry I'm sure the GOB will have an anser to your crappy problem. "

Vote Them Out wrote on Oct 15, 2009 8:33 PM:

" This whole situation smells really bad. I say vote all of them out. Yes, I understand that the fire officials feel they need a bigger place. I can fully understand that, however, the town voted against it. For two reasons, we the taxes payers could not afford it now and because of the location. In the future if we felt that we could afford it and all the questions about location answered, the citizens would have been happy to pay for it. It should be the citizens of our town paying for it. Just like the Middle school bond, it passed when 1st, we could afford it and 2nd, all the questions were fully answered. So why, why now does our city council decided to bypass the electorite to build a mansion for Sands that is two minutes from his house?? Like I said before this smells. I will not vote for any of them. "

trainwreck wrote on Oct 15, 2009 10:24 AM:

" if stupid was painfull most you people would be in so much pain you wouldn't be able to type. yes the fire station is good for the town, yes, it's a grant it is not to be paid back. yes it is our taxes comming back and not going somewhere else, because it was going to go somewhere, would you rather some town in California get it.yes henderson has been good for payette, if williams gets in it will be a trainwreck . "

old timer wrote on Oct 14, 2009 5:58 AM:

" Been Watchin' tell us exactly when the council approved going after this grant, not when they approved accepting it. Quote us the discussion that the entire council had on applying for this grant. We have been "Watchin'" too. "

RV wrote on Oct 13, 2009 11:46 PM:

" Ok. So, is it cool for me to dump my RV waste in the parking lot? Since the station will be "next to the soccer field," where do you propose that the people using the soccer field are going to park? These guys ever stop to think that one of the reasons we didn't pass this in election might of been because of the proposed location? Payette's good ol boy network hard at it again. If they don't get what they want, they'll figure out a way to go around it. "

Just Asking wrote on Oct 12, 2009 7:45 PM:

" I thought the stimulus money had to be paid back by the people getting it. By calling it a grant, it makes it seem like the city does NOT have to pay it back. So, does it have to be paid back to the Federal Government, or not? "

Amazed wrote on Oct 12, 2009 7:34 PM:

" I truly am amazed at the number of people I know from Payette who have been rabidly against the stimulus package, hate Obama and the Democrats, and won't shut up about burdening our children and grandchildren with debt, but they are thrilled we are getting a new fire station with the money. Hey Jeff and Doug.....how much talking have YOU done about how the stimulus package is going to ruin this country and its taxpayers, but you sure don't have a problem standing at the public trough with your hands out. I don't have a problem with getting a new firestation as much as I have a problem with people who badmouth everything the current president does, but grab everything they can and then call it a "blessing". What a bunch of hypocrites! "

Been Watchin wrote on Oct 12, 2009 5:01 PM:

" This grant was fire station specific, if they did not accept it someone elso would have. If the "Man" is going to throw our money around we need to grab our fair share. The Mayor and his admistration are doing a great job. Old timer you wine to much, and for your info all the council approved this grant, check the records. So called "tax payer" if you are one? you sound like someone who would complain no matter what this admistration would do. Oh ya "sad" your on the wrong Blog. da! "

lmk wrote on Oct 12, 2009 4:07 PM:

" A building does not professionals make. "

Sweet Deal wrote on Oct 11, 2009 11:19 PM:

" Ok seriously, have any of you people that is against this fire station even looked at the current fire station? Have you not seen all of the equipment and fire trucks crammed into that little building? There obviously is not enough room to fit everything. The building itself needs alot of attention. I think its's great that Payette will be getting a new fire station, and i'm sure that many people will feel safer knowing that there is a brand new, up to date fire station. "

just a western wrote on Oct 11, 2009 10:28 PM:

" Yep, I live here in the West too. No plans here...just ideas of what should be and by gollie the rest of us will pay...Chow "

Out West wrote on Oct 11, 2009 8:27 PM:

" Great news! It has been a long time coming! Those of you who have never been involved with emergency services will never understand the importance of having reliable and updated resources. Oh yeah, the Chinese have nothing to do with this money....learn a little economics. Cheers! "

sad wrote on Oct 9, 2009 9:43 AM:

" Please don't confuse "choice" with "mistake". Sallee made his choices...many times...this time he could not be redeemed. He will, I assure you, pay the price...sadly...so will his family and the community. I to believe in Karma...and yes, what you pass around comes around. But no one should be gloating in anothers mis-fortune. Neither Sallee knows or practices humility and it has shown in their rather arrogant way of service to the public and treatment of other co-workers...however, I encourage you to move past this. There will always be the small percentage of people in Law Enforcement who behave this way, sadly. "

tax payer wrote on Oct 9, 2009 9:38 AM:

" To great, interesting that you would claim anyone that does not think along your thought process does not love the city or support the city they live in....the city in which we pay high taxes with little return...thanks for invalidating over half the people who live, work and pay taxes here. Debate is the democracy..stay on track with the issues and quit attacking the people. What a wonderful Country that we live in that we can still have an opinion...and are free (with respect) to express it publically. A fire station, not to be taken lightly, is another financial responsibility - forever! Building it is only the first step..when all other governments are laying off and cutting back...we should really becareful how we spend our future, uncertain, money. Those my fellow tax payer are the facts. "

Citizen wrote on Oct 9, 2009 9:09 AM:

" Public officials amd citizens, please remember stimulas dollars are our tax dollars. This is not good. Make due, get by with what you have. Stop spending our money for now in this economy. Be responsible. "

Sondra wrote on Oct 8, 2009 9:26 PM:

" Dear Against more taxes, We lost the vote for the new fire department by only 87 votes. That goes to show that there are a lot of people out there that saw the need for a new building. By having a bigger more updated fire department we will be able to attract more businesses to Payette because they will be protected in a better capacity. This will bring in more jobs. As far as fixing up the other station..have you ever toured the station? Have you ever seen the trucks that are parked outside in the elements because there is no room in the station? Don't you think that if there had been any possible way to upgrade/fix the old station they would have? "

Old timer wrote on Oct 8, 2009 6:34 PM:

" This is nothing but new taxes!!! how much is the heat bill? No answers about any of this. Whose running this town? Did the council aprove going after this grant? When? We voted this down because of no answers. Is this just a monument to Henderson and Sands? "

Great wrote on Oct 8, 2009 11:55 AM:

" Wow is all I have to say It is great that they got a grant and we only have to pay a little to get a new state of the art station. a grant is a great way to have this happen other wise some else would get that money. It should go to Payette if anywhere I love our town and our county it is a great place to live if any one apposes this it would l just show that they do not support the community. "

Sondra wrote on Oct 8, 2009 9:08 AM:

" The need for a new fire station has been apparent to anyone that bothered to look. The current station is too small to accommodate the fire equipment necessary to effectively protect our community and it's residents. This new station is also going to allow for future growth of Payette which is needed for the economic future of our town. I am ecstatic that we are getting this new station and support any and all efforts that have been put forth to bring this about. I am happy that my taxes are going to help out our town. "

Citizen Of Payette wrote on Oct 8, 2009 9:05 AM:

" To Whatever;
The money was already spent, so why begrudge the City of Payette for getting a little piece of the pie. Good job Mary & Jeff, this is the first thing I've seen the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 do to help us locally. I don't agree with the process of the Fed spending our children's money, but someone was going to get it, why not Payette! "

Good Job wrote on Oct 8, 2009 5:32 AM:

" Congratulations Payette and great job to those who filled out the application. It is a wonderful thing. I am not sure why anyone would not take the money, if it did not come to Payette, it would just go somewhere else! I wish all rural fire districts would take the time to fill out the grants as well as Payette has and we all could have a great facilities. It will only assist in bringing more business and industries to our area which means more job and tax dollars. Who would pass that up? Best of all the firemen will have quality facilities with quality equipment to protect our homes and businesses and the fireman! Maybe the grant writer could send a copy of the grant to the other rural fire district in our area, as one to learn from. :) Congratulations! "

tax payer wrote on Oct 7, 2009 10:50 PM:

" Leave it to administration to find a way around the vote of the people. This is definately a sticky wicked..simply because we find the money elsewhere, simply because we build it, does not mean we can afford it! The questions have not been answered...Thank you Mary...I know you worked hard on this...and one day in the future others will benefit from you endeavors...I don't believe the stimulus money is a good idea for us but the truth is...someone is getting it...that same dollar amount was going somewhere else...I just hope we can afford to overlook the vote of the people and build it anyway! I find it interesting Mr. Mayor used the word blessings in his comment...money that must be paid back (cause anyway you cut the mustard its tax dollars)that is coming from the future to circumvent the voice of the people...is no blessing...it is just typical good ole boy government....so they are just spending our money a different way without our vote. "

Chinese Money wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:31 PM:

" If Payette, which needs a new fire station, (More than half the voters in Payette felt this was true.) doesn't take advantage of this grant, some other town will. There are lots of buildings in this area that were built through government programs in the 30's. I'm sure citizens had concerns then, also. But if Obama wants to stimulate the economy in 2009, let him stimulate the economy of Payette County--not the county that's next in line for this grant. "

aginst more taxes wrote on Oct 7, 2009 5:07 PM:

" THIS WAS THE REASON IT WAS VOTED AGINST...PUT THAT MONEY INTO A FACTORY OR SOMETHING THAT WILL EMPLOY MORE THAN 8 PEOPLE....THAT MONEY WAS TO BRING IN JOBS...WE HAVE A GOOD FIRE STATION...FIX IT UP LESS MONEY AND TAXES AND FIND SOMETHING FOR PEOPLE TO DO TO LIVE.... "

Mr. Bill wrote on Oct 7, 2009 4:49 PM:

" If you don't take it, someone else will. Do you have the same sentiments towards the Wall Street bailout or the cost of the war.

People like you see into the future the wrong way. This is about the future. Why do you think we do not need a new firestation? "

Get a Life Whatever wrote on Oct 7, 2009 4:29 PM:

" This will be great for Payette, and if we did not get this money it would go somewhere else. I agree with you about the over spending of stimulus money, but if its out there, we might as well use it around here. So shut your mouth and be happy about it. Its coming to Payette, the Fire Dept. needs it and its going to look good. Job well done, Mary and Jeff. "

Whatever wrote on Oct 7, 2009 2:54 PM:

" We the citizens of Payette voted against this. Do we really need this fancy building only to our children and our children's children to be paying for it for years and years? This stimulus money is money our country does not have. We are borrowing this money from the Chinese. I do not want this fire station and I do not want the federal governments money!! "

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