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enforcement wrote on Jul 15, 2009 6:44 PM:

" ENFORCEMENT--ENFORCEMENT--ENFORCEMENT of the laws we already have. When law enforcement takes a lackadaisical approach to enforcing the laws we already have(fire works)(littering) it just encourages more of the same then we have the powers to be whining about passing more laws. Hold Mike Kee's feet to the fire(lol) "

dude wrote on Jul 14, 2009 9:29 AM:

" You Oregonians are something else. Geesh! Laws for everything to protect you from yourselves. It is the weakening of the human race. There is someting called Natural Selection. Let it take place. This is how the stupid people are weeded out. Duh! "

Speak English Duh is Russian. wrote on Jul 13, 2009 2:44 PM:

" If you think that passing more laws is going to stop ignorant people from being ignorant....then you yourself are truely ignorant. All that does is ruin it for the rest of the people that can take a sparkler to the park, play with it without bothering a soul, and collect their trash...I would know, I've done this for years without making a mess or bothering a soul. Why would anyone go to the park if we have all these rules? I always felt the park was a place for controlled chaos, where children can run and play, scream and have fun. Before long they won't even be able to walk on the grass.

What you are doing, is letting a very small percentage of the population ruin it for the rest of us.

People die from alcohol related accidents every day, you think that alcohol should be banned too? Oh wait, we tried that too, it didn't work. Why do you think something of similiar

Manufacturers make cars/motorcycles that can travel up to 3 times past interstate speed limits, you want to ban those too?

My point is, is that most people who drink, own fast vehicles, or in this case take sparklers down to the park, can control themselves. Why do you want to punish everyone else just because of the few? Thats a cowards way out of solving a problem, rather than people stepping up to the plate and taking care of business themselves in a calm, and adult like way.

Use it to make money. If some jackarse is waiving a sparkler in peoples face, give them a 100 dollar fine. That way, the rest of us can enjoy our sparklers, and the FEW that are causing problems will be making money for the city.

All this aside, the fireworks that individuals set off are better than what the city puts out anyway, so why take the best part of the show away? "

not a big deal wrote on Jul 13, 2009 1:42 PM:

" I go to the park every year to watch the fire works, however never set any off while I am there. Other people set off fire works next to us and yes it can get annoying when those pesky smoke bombs go off. I would prefer that individuals fire works not be aloud at the park. This is not a big deal that needs to be debated. Is it so hard to set fire works off at your own home before or after the park? further more it does affect the safety to myself and my son (and my car) to have those people setting off their own fire works so close to us (just because I watch my kids does not mean that they watch theirs or care about anyone else but them self's)I mean really how far do you or your children stand away from your fire works at home? the same does not apply at the park when it is so crowded. By the way asking someone to move their little displays is not really applicable when there really is no where else to move. "

concerned wrote on Jul 13, 2009 9:37 AM:

" to not concerned just bored: Yes, a fireman's job is to put out fires and save people if needed, BUT, you are missing the whole point! DUH! Why deal with ignorant people that ruin it for everyone? Have you ever tried to talk to these kind of people that have no brains which is clearly visible by them letting sparklers off near others? Hello? I too hope it doesn't come to restricting the fireworks as I too enjoy watching them. All I am saying is that it has come to this because people don't pick up their garbage at the parks and are dangerous around other people and people have the right to complain. You are probably one that thinks rules apply to all but you! "

Not concerned just bored wrote on Jul 10, 2009 6:58 PM:

" If my house is burning down and my child is inside, then I am a coward for leaving them behind. I would burn to death before I would run out of my own home knowing my child was still inside, I know this because I've done this before and have a few scars to prove it. And the job thing was a nice touch...only proves that your best argument is to manufacture your own BS.

Oh, this comment.... "Wouldn't you hope he would make the decision to go in and try to save that child?"

Uh, if he doesn't then he can walk back to the station because at that moment he refused to enter a burning home, he should lose his job. He's paid to run into burning buildings, the only decision he has to make is whether or not he wants to keep his job because, again, running into burning builders IS THEIR JOB. If they don't like it, there are millins of other careers availiable to them. If a carpet cleaner refused to clean carpets, or a window washer refused to wash windows....I'm pretty sure they would lose their jobs. Fire fighters....yeah, they fight fires, no mystery there what should happen if they refused to fight fires.

If one or two people are causing problems in the park with having their little sparklers too close to you, then do something about it at that moment and say something, don't just go home and start writing new laws and rules for everyone else to follow. All you people crying that your kids had to dodge fireworks...did it ever dawn on you that maybe asking those people to stop, especially if a couple people who agreed with you calmly approached these terrible firework setter-offers (lol)and ask them to move/stop? Did you waste a police officers time by making the ignorant decision to call 911 for such a simple thing BEFORE asking them to move their fireworks away from you? "

concerned wrote on Jul 9, 2009 6:15 AM:

" TO CONCERNED....I am "concerned"and your blog is just plain stupid! Ok, so you say that the fireman "makes the decision" ot go into a burning building. Well what if your house was burning and you had a small child inside? Wouldn't you hope he would make the decision to go in and try to save that child? We all have jobs and there are certain things that IS required for that job. Does that mean that just because some idiot like you thinks that you can be the cause of some dangerous act that I had better come rescue you because of a BAD decison you made? Because it's my job? Do you even have a job and know what I am even talking about? Are you one of those people that stand around until someone tells you what to do cuz you can't use common sense to see what needs to be done? "

wow wrote on Jul 8, 2009 7:29 PM:

" totally amazed.... When u were a kid there probably not as many people in are area. There were not as many dangerous fireworks.... i took my kids to the park for the first time in the last few years Kids were doodging fireworks that adults were putting off near people sitting. I can understand maybe a few sparklers but nothing else. Do them at your home.

And people clean up after yourself have a little respect for yourself and your city!!!!! "

Simply put wrote on Jul 8, 2009 5:16 PM:

" Fireman put Fires out when started, and it sounds like there will always be some to put out, after reading some of these posts. Fire Chiefs work to prevent Fires and Injuries from occuring.
No one is trying to take Fireworks away from you, just don't want them used in an extremely crowded park. "

You IDIOT wrote on Jul 7, 2009 10:40 PM:

" Nobody has a "right" to have "fun" at the risk of endangering others. Beck Kiwanis is a rat race and someone is going to get critically hurt because some knothead thought they were having fun. Those of you who do not clean up after yourselves are indeed pigs. City employees are paid to empty trash cans not pick up litter. Clean up after yourselves. "

WHAT wrote on Jul 7, 2009 6:49 PM:

" Wow it should be against the law for idiots to write blogs. You folks are the reason there are laws and more to be enacted. Bet you teach you kids its ok to break the law and go ahead kids start a few fires we have firemen to put it out. They don't do much anyway right?
Yeah lets take all the fun out of the 4th. What an idiot. Check the Oregon laws. If they were enforced they only fun you'd get would be watching the City sponsored fireworks rather than burning your neighbors shed down. But hey whats a little fire or two.
It should happen to YOU "

To Concerned wrote on Jul 7, 2009 3:53 PM:

" Firefighters are paid to do a job, they know the risk and it is generally appreciated. But you can't expect people to appreciate it, and many people die doing their jobs helping others, but like all the rest still among the living, they know that they are risking their lives, and they are trading money for that risk. So feeling sorry for them is out of the question because they knew what they were up against and no one makes them do their job, and they put their own families in that situation, so their is nothing to explain to them, they aready knew the odds.

If a fireman runs into a burning building and dies, it was because they ran into the building, not because someone started a fire. They make a choice standing outside the doors of a burning home/etc whether or not they go in, and whether their motivation is money or the pure joy of helping others, it is still ultimately their own choice, no one throws them into the fire.

And since I am required to pay taxes, and firefighters are paid to put out fires with tax dollars, if someone starts a fire with my roman candle, then they will come put it out. If they don't want to risk their lives to put it out, then thats fine, their final check will be waiting for them in their locker and someone else who wants a paycheck can fill their spot.

Pretty soon they will take sleds away, candy at halloween, and latex balloons. All in the name of saftey. "

concerned wrote on Jul 7, 2009 2:24 PM:

" Let's look at another concern....litter. How many people go and pick up their messes at the park after letting their kids have "fun"? Maybe if people would teach their children to have respect for others and others property, a lot of the "old" good times could come back. People think that others are paid to pick up after them and just leave their garbage. People are paid to clean but that is how it was in the "old" days too but parents taught their kids to clean up after themselves. And parents watched what their kids were doing and if they were doing wrong, they had consequences that taught them something. No, I don't mean a beating but maybe a little apology to whom they offended. I remember being scared to death if there was a chance of being sent to the principals office cuz I knew it would be worse at home. Kids could care less now because parents teach them to care less. I think the fireworks should not be cancelled either but it should be known that YOU ARE responsible to pick up after yourself and ticketed if not. And for the person that wrote about what we pay our fireman for..... are you kidding? Did you reread what you wrote? Maybe you could explain your thought to a family that has lost a loved one due to them doing there job that they are paid for and for someone starting a fire that took their loved ones life. "

smoke bomb wrote on Jul 7, 2009 8:20 AM:

" a video of a "home made sparkler" blowing up foils the 4th for the kids in the park? someone needs to film the city council members parking, so they can pass an ordinance banning city council members from driving. Boo! "

A wrote on Jul 7, 2009 12:19 AM:

" Wow, lets just take all the fun out of the 4th of July. My God, this is absolutely ridiculous. Those officers have better things to do than to cite people enjoying themselves.

Thats why our tax dollars pay for fire fighters...in case we start a fire. We don't pay fire fighters to draft new rules that rob us of our right to enjoy ourselves in what is a traditional way.

Sure, a few fires may occur, but whats fun about being perfectly "safe" all the time? If I wanted that I'd live in a bubble my entire life.

The last thing we need are more rules and regulations. "

Totally Amazed wrote on Jul 6, 2009 11:24 AM:

" I have to ask Chief Higgy this.. How did he ever make it through childhood without having all these "safety ordinances and laws" in place? When we were kids, we had fireworks. Never remember any of my friend or family being maimed by bottle rockets or roman candles. Why? Because we had parents that watched out for us. Oregon has gone far enough in enacting laws and ordinances that protect us from ourselves. Lowest speed limits in the nation, high fines for seat belt laws, and helmet laws are some that come to mind.

Yes, there are a few idiots out there. But to enact ordinances and laws because of a few idiots is crazy. "

Whatever wrote on Jul 6, 2009 9:26 AM:

" It will enforced has well as the current illegal fireworks ordinance.
Not at all. "

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