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Payette County OKs RV mandate
Elected board makes decision earlier this week



PAYETTE — Payette County Commissioners unanimously approved an ordinance Monday making it illegal to use any type of recreational vehicle as a permanent residence within the county, with the exception of licensed recreational vehicle parks.

Chad Henggeler, with the Payette County Planning and Zoning Commission, brought the proposed ordinance before the commissioners Monday during a public hearing at the Payette County Courthouse. No one from the general public attended the hearing.

Henggeler told commissioners the Payette County Planning and Zoning board originally set out to amend the county’s ordinance dealing with RVs and to outline specific stipulations on being able to use RVs as a residence. He said, however, after examining ordinances from Gem County and Canyon County, neither of the neighboring counties allowed people to use recreational vehicles as a permanent or temporary residence.

“Maybe that’s the way we need to go about it,”  Henggeler said. “We should not allow RVs to be used as homes in Payette County.”

Henggeler told commissioners that the county planning and zoning board worked for a long time on the ordinance and came up with a revised, final regulation that was sent to a public hearing during the planning and zoning meeting March 12.

In that ordinance, recreational vehicles are defined as any “motor home, travel trailer, truck camper or camping trailer, with or without motive power, designed for human habitation for recreational or emergency occupancy.

School buses or van type vehicles which are converted to recreational use are also defined as recreational vehicles.”

The ordinance also states that “No person shall live, reside or stay in any recreational vehicle outside of a licensed recreational vehicle park.”

Commissioners Larry Church, Rudy Endrikat and Marc Shigeta all, at one time or another, played the devil’s advocate, grilling Henggeler and Planning and Zoning Administrator Mary Mejia about the ordinance.

Church stated his concerns about the economy and people who may lose their homes turning to RVs as their only source of residence.

“We don’t want to make somebody homeless,” he said.

Endrikat said he was concerned about people who travel to southern portions of the United States during winter months, then return to Payette County to spend time with their children during the summer.

“How do we address that?” Endrikat asked.

Shigeta said he had a problem with the word “stay” in the ordinance. He said “stay” could mean something as simple as children sleeping in a camp trailer overnight would be violating the ordinance.

Commissioners also questioned policing of the ordinance and how the law would be enforced.

Mejia said the Payette County Sheriff’s Office stipulated a complaint would need to be lodged before any investigation into a violation could start.

“We’re not going to just peruse the county looking for them,” she said.

In the end, commissioners opted to make a decision at the close of the hearing and voted unanimously to approve the ordinance.




Comment Blog - Note: All Comments Subject To Approval

Jim wrote on Apr 24, 2009 1:35 PM:

" good luck with the County attorney. He's on the taxpayer's payroll too. "

RLH wrote on Apr 23, 2009 7:43 PM:

" Poorly written with wording such as "stay"? This needs to be reviewed by the the city/county attorney. I would hate to be the one put in charge of enforcing this ordinance. This ordinance must only be meant for public domain. If this is intended towards private property then these public officials need to be removed! "

A wrote on Apr 23, 2009 5:23 PM:

" LOL, dang it, I read that whole article again before I called them out on it too. I stand corrected. "

To A wrote on Apr 23, 2009 7:08 AM:

" The ordinance also states that “No person shall live, reside or stay in any recreational vehicle outside of a licensed recreational vehicle park.”

Who didn't read the article? "

Jim wrote on Apr 22, 2009 11:59 AM:

" The payette county comissioners have been running amuck for some time now. We elect new ones and they do what the old ones did. They have too much un-checked power to do what they want. There needs to be a fundamental change here with some checks and balances. Payette is such a nice place to live with the comissioners making it less and less attractive to us and new businesses. "

A wrote on Apr 22, 2009 11:58 AM:

" While I do not agree with this one bit, some of you are not reading the story. It says you can't use an RV as a PERMANENT residence....it said nothing about your family staying for the weekend in your back yard, or at the hill climb for a day or two. I bet they could stay for a few months and it still be considered "temporary" and no one could say a word.

Regardless though...this is a bad policy to have, and I'm sure if the people of that county had a voice in it, it would of never been passed. "

cant believe it wrote on Apr 22, 2009 11:00 AM:

" It is hard for me to understand how three men (who represent the people) could pass an ordinance, without having their own concerns addressed. This smacks of government intrusion. How, in such tough economic times can the County afford to hire and pay someone to police this ordinance. More importantly, how will it be enforced fairly? These types of ordinaces originate from knee-jerk reactions based on one person's bad behavior. I say leave the people alone, let them make their own decisions regarding their property and where they want to sleep their friends and families, and get on with the matter of public service. If I understand this ordinance correctly, someone would have to initiate a complaint..that smacks of random enforcement...this ordinance needs to be recinded, immediately. "

So much for Econ101 wrote on Apr 22, 2009 7:56 AM:

" We live on a few acres as do all of our neighbors. All of us have family and friends that come and go during the year to visit. They park RVs at our places during their stays of a few days to a couple of weeks. Just like the family of "I don't get it" they spend money all over Payette County while here on food, fuel, gifts, dining out, etc... Now you would rather they pay for a hotel room in Ontario and spend their money in Oregon on food, fuel, gifts, dining out, etc... True economic stimulus for our county. I'm looking forward to you ticketing all the campers that show up for the Big Nasty Hill Ride (stupid...stupid...STUPID economic move!) The law should have a TIME LINE on it, state the length of time one can dwell in the vehicle. Which brings up another question...are homeless people whe live in cars going to be ticketed also? "

hellscanyon wrote on Apr 21, 2009 8:34 AM:

" At least it's still OK to live in a tent or a cardboard box..... "

Jim wrote on Apr 20, 2009 1:25 PM:

" Remember when on the "Beverly Hillbillys" Granny brought her shack up from the south and put it up in the backyard of the mansion? I'm just sayin... "

Larry wrote on Apr 17, 2009 9:24 PM:

" I would speculate that the RV Park owners are behind this one "

I dont get it wrote on Apr 17, 2009 8:11 PM:

" I live in the county outside of Fruitland. When my family or friends come to visit, they tow their camper or 5th wheel and park it in front of my place for a day or two. They eat at area restarants; buy groceries at Lonnies; buy gas at Stinker. Now you tell me that Larry, Rudy and Mo have made this crazy decision? What the heck are they thinking? We need some good candidates to step up and fill their seats. This is just CRAZY! I hopr a tornado doesn't come through and take out one of their houses because FEMA is gonna send a trailer for them to live in and I'm gonna be the first one to press charges! "

hoss wrote on Apr 17, 2009 5:39 PM:

" Its just funny that Payette County has to follow suit after two other counties. Starting to sound like Oregon when they say oh we have to follow California we have to have the same laws. This is crazy I know when my father was alive and totally disabled he could only afford a camp trailer now what are people like this goint to do. Live in a park they cant afford. Does this mean when the hill climb comes to town you can stay in your camper for more than one night remember is states or temporary resident so that means you cannot camp over night in Payette county. "

Former Payette Co Resident wrote on Apr 16, 2009 12:58 PM:

" This sounds like a solution looking for a problem. It sounds like an answer given when no question was asked. I don't get it. "

hellscanyon wrote on Apr 16, 2009 10:33 AM:

" ....all republicans, helping us get the government off our backs, eh? Stop voting for every pinhead who has an "R" behind his name! "

time for change wrote on Apr 16, 2009 5:30 AM:

" we neet to vote these people out of our county goverment. they spend way to much time dictating what a free person can do with there property. "

trapped in commyville wrote on Apr 16, 2009 5:25 AM:

" Are you kidding me. how many more laws are our elected officials going to pass? now we can't stay in our camper! all of the problems in the world and this is the best way they can spend our tax dollars. whats next? gine me a break!!!!!!!! "

hellscanyon wrote on Apr 15, 2009 12:47 PM:

" Yup...almost as stupid as laws about not smoking in your car. "

Kidding Me wrote on Apr 15, 2009 12:27 PM:

" More of our elected officials at work with laws to squeeze more out of the poor. At a time when so many are having a hard time keeping their homes, jobs etc. this useless law is passed. Let the unfortunate ones have a chance to get their lives back together without punishing more. The only way we are going to get rid of those in Government who wish to control the citizens is to vote them out. It's your country keep it or loose it, the choice is yours. "

Larry wrote on Apr 11, 2009 3:05 PM:

" If you live a good life and say your prayers. When you die, you will go to Oregon.

Happy Easter and God Bless "

Chris wrote on Apr 11, 2009 8:26 AM:

" Off course it would be better to live in a normal apartment or house, but if you have lost your job at no fault of yours and unemployment only pays less then half your wage.An RV or Trailer you can park at relatives house until you can get another job and still pay your bills.That is a much better solution than putting a tent up in someones yard. "

Alfred wrote on Apr 11, 2009 7:40 AM:

" The Peoples Republic of Idaho strikes again, knew there was a reason I left that miserable over taxed state. OK, Ontario set up Toll Booths on the Bridge and charge an Admission Tax to Oregon. "

NP Res wrote on Apr 10, 2009 8:15 PM:

" Looks like the blowhard that's been warned 3+ times not to live in his RV and has been hoping the new guy would make it legal for him to do so is gonna be a LITTLE BIT disappointed. "


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