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Residents send a clear message at library session
Many simply want city to hand structure over to library district



Ontario — If the newly-formed Ontario Library District and Ontario elected leaders were looking for the public’s answer to the current library building conundrum, their wish was granted Thursday night — in loud and clear terms.

One of the most significant moments flared midway through the town hall session held at Four River’s Cultural Center.

After more than an hour of opinions discussions one Ontario man stood up and posed a question.

“How many of you want them to go ahead and gift the building?” Jack Franklin asked.

In an instant, a majority of the more than 150 people in the Owyhee River Room at FRCC raised their hands.

Frankline summed up the obvious.

“By golly, I would think that would be a good idea of what the citizens of Ontario want,” he said.

Seeking input

At issue is how much, if anything, the City of Ontario will charge the newly formed, voter-supported Ontario Library District for use of the existing library building.

Some city elected leaders maintain a fair, but substantial, fee should be levied on the library district for use of the building. Supporters of the library district, though, assert the city should simply “gift” the building to the district. Thursday’s session was designed by officials to gather as much public input as possible regarding a future course of action.

There were those at the session who felt the library should not be gifted the Ontario Public Library District.

“I don’t think the city ought to donate the building,” Bill Hollingsworth, Ontario, said at the meeting.

He said, as a business owner, he believed the building should be rented.

“I don’t think there ought to be a free lunch,” Hollingsworth said.

He said, when most people are looking at homes they have the ability to decide whether they should buy a home or rent it, asserting no one just gives away a building. He said a better option would be to sell the building to the newly-formed library district at a price of $220,000, which is how much the city took out in a bond in 1966.

Hollingsworth said the new district could purchase the library for $1,000 a month for 220 months or on a shorter term.

The audience also heard from local children’s book writer Judy Cox, who said the city should not charge the newly-formed district rent and the building should be viewed more like a city park, where it has been paid for and can now be used by all.

However, Ontario resident Larry Heidbrink said the city was simply charging rent in the same way the library district would have to pay if it opted to build somewhere else or rent elsewhere.

Later in the meeting, Ontario resident Al Hicks expressed the viewpoint that the lease would be putting Ontario residents in “double jeopardy.”

“We paid to build it once, and now the City Council wants us to pay for it again,” he said. “The City Council didn’t build it, we built it as citizens.”

Ontario resident Jack Roberts, spoke about the Friends of the Library, a group that helped fund library needs such as money for the creation of an elevator, security, computers and a new phone system.

“It seemed like they were working on a shoestring budget,” he said, adding he believed funding has been sparse, even without the rent.

Former Ontario City Council member Jim Mosier said he believed the city was turning a “win/win” situation into a “lose/lose” one. Choosing to charge the library district rent would create a lot of ill will among the community,” he said.

“Public trust is hard to build,” he said. “Harder yet to maintain.”

Ontario resident Riley Hill said he believed the taxpayers were being forgotten in the discussions. He said city taxpayers are responsible for paying for police protection and fire services as well as funding the golf course. With the creation of the new tax district, he said, city taxpayers did not see a reduction in their taxes and are still responsible for paying for the same services.

“It’s an asset to the city, and the city shouldn’t give it away. The taxpayers shouldn’t give it away,” he said.

Shari DePauw, a teacher at Ontario Middle School, said the taxpayers are the city and gifting the building to the library district would simply mean gifting it to themselves.

She also said the school used to used the library a great deal but now are limited on when they can go.

“I’m trying to figure out a way that we can all be winners here,” she said.

 




Comment Blog - Note: All Comments Subject To Approval

Taxpayer wrote on Mar 18, 2009 1:56 PM:

" If the message was loud and clear why doesn't the city council transfer the deed over to the library district? Joe wasn't even at the meeting. Why have they told the library board to come up with a new idea. They must not like what the taxpayers have already told them. You can buy a new fire truck, you can fix a pothole on the underpass for $35,000, you can lend businesses money that never gets paid back, why can't you do what the taxpayers are asking you to do and turn over control of the library to the newly elected district whose job it is to run the library? Maybe illiteracy doesn't matter to you. Maybe you can't give up control. The newly elected board was chosen to run the library, not you. Norm, you said you would listen to what the people had to say. The people have spoken. DEED IT OVER! "

Black Dove wrote on Mar 16, 2009 1:50 PM:

" Boy, I sure am glad that the Ontario School Bond did not pass. Just imagine what new schnanigans the Ontario City Council would have presented then.

Sullivan, Larry Heidbrink, and Joe Dominic don't you think that when it comes to colleting taxes from an already taxed building by the Residents of Ontario deserve a refund since they are in the library district too? However, this option was not presented. Well, what about the thousands lost in unsecured investments with tax payer dollars?

Don't you think the library district has the option of placing a re-vote to undo this library district?

Don't you think that this library district will have the option of choosing to build and maintain a new building outside the City Limits of Ontario? And this with the general idea that it is not in the best interest of the district to pick up the old-little-parking-small-library building?

Funny, it just seems those on the council support the old "bait and switch situation".

I am glad we know who they are now, and glad more so that the Ontario School Bond did not pass.

With all the tricks this council have in their hands it is a wonder they are in office. "

Salty Dog wrote on Mar 13, 2009 7:06 PM:

" One lie leads to another and eventually Pinocchio Joe's nose is so long you cant miss it., we see you Joe. "

Larry wrote on Mar 11, 2009 5:00 PM:

" I guess it is now apparent why slop supported the library district. What else do you have up your sleeve Joe? "

haha wrote on Mar 11, 2009 3:17 PM:

" riley = cheshire cat! "

My goodness wrote on Mar 11, 2009 3:26 AM:

" I remember Riley Hill as the builder of all those expensive houses and rental out beyond TVCC and the cemetary. I'd bet frugality means something to him!

It's a Depression, kids. Watch for poisoned apples, only a nickel. "

decisions wrote on Mar 9, 2009 7:53 PM:

" in response to "to decisions' (a few blogs down) yeah we do probably have a lot of Jack Franklin's who are willing to speak at meetings without holding an office. I don't think he's a coward at all. I think he's probably a guy who lives in the real world and is busier than heck with his real life (as many of us are). My opinion is that our politicians need every Jack Franklin they can get. "

enjoyed meeting wrote on Mar 8, 2009 6:57 AM:

" I loved the public meeting. To see so many people come out and support the library made me so proud of our community. Jack Franklin's poll at the very end was a great way to end the meeting because it reflected the opinions of almost everyone there. Now let's hope the city does the right thing by turning the building over to the library district. "

Larry wrote on Mar 7, 2009 9:59 PM:

" What Jack did shows leadership. It sounds like someone is a little jealous. Give em hell JACK!

Now on the other hand, how true is leadership when it is placed there with the aid of campaign contributions?

Slop didn't listen to "Concerned Citizens of Ontario" nor did he listen to the recommendations of the revenue committee however he was sure willing to hold up the Dickerhoof deal all because his campaign buddy(s) were out of town.

Pardon me while I go shave with one of Joes axes. this one he named Scott. "

Larry wrote on Mar 7, 2009 2:55 PM:

" Sure is nice to have business men running our government huh? Joe. You are definitely a turd as is that little sidekick of yours "

left by choice wrote on Mar 7, 2009 10:48 AM:

" three win/win situations:

Give the library district the darn building. Let the library district assume all costs involved, taxes, upkeep and future improvments.

If you don't want to do that, let the city be the landlord and pay for all future improvments, maintence costs, updgrades, utilities. Betcha that will use up most of the $60k a year.


Or charge the library rent and put the $60k in a trust fund for keeping open the golf course the swimming pool and maintaining the streets.

By the way, wasn't this a "county library" when it was built? Who paid for it, just Ontario or the rest of Malheur County? If that's the case then rent should be distributed back to the original taxpayers who paid the bond to build the building in the first place. "

The Truth wrote on Mar 7, 2009 8:21 AM:

" Was Katie Pizza at the forum? I ask this because the article does not match what really happened there. Out of 25 people who spoke at the forum only two were in support of the city charging rent. Two! This works out to 8 percent. Hey City Council when you were elected you were not elected by two individuals, you were elected by the majority. Do what's right and listen to your constituents. "

To decisions wrote on Mar 7, 2009 7:31 AM:

" We have plenty of Jack Franklins, they are the people who don't have the courage to run for public office and wait in the bushes until they can ambush by complaint. What leadership stand-up in a crowd of people with like views and ask them to raise their hands if they agree with him. What a joke. "

Spark wrote on Mar 6, 2009 8:46 PM:

" Riley Hill silent partner in the Tuttle Dominick Fox SDC lawsuit claims to be looking out for the taxpayers. Mr. Hill is a contributor to the Dominick campaign as well as the Sullivan Campaign. Mr. Hill is out for himself and his partners in "crime". Mr.Hill, please do not pretend. "

Big Jay wrote on Mar 6, 2009 7:08 PM:

" This is just another typical case of the Government not listening to what the people want. A majority of the citizens want the building gifted. It sounds like the Middle School would use it more to help promote education. I hear the politics in Ontario and it is the same thing across the country. What's in it for me? How can the city make a dollar off of the public library. People are making this issue alot more difficult than it really is by listening to what the minority thinks. That attitude is what has been hurting not only this community, but the nation as a whole. It would be nice if, just once, the politicians of this city would do what we all know is the morally right thing to do. Just gift the building. It belongs to the tax payers, not the politicians. We vote for you to represent what the majority thinks is best. We think it is best to gift this already paid for building. We have been beating this topic to death, along with the city pool,for years. Trust me, now is the time to go with the people. as Mr. Mosier said, "Public trust is hard to build, and harder yet to maintain." I feel that the public trust is slipping quickly when it comes to our local elected officials. "

decisions wrote on Mar 6, 2009 4:11 PM:

" God Bless Jack Franklin. There should be more of him in the world. If he ever runs for politics he has my vote. "

TheQuestionRemains wrote on Mar 6, 2009 4:02 PM:

" What does the City Council intend to do with the $60,000/year they want to receive in rent for this building? If the City Council were to be OPEN with the citizens who opted to pay the Library Tax because they supported the idea of a Library District, and the intended use was something that could be overseen/reviewed on an ongoing basis, I am sure there might be public support for this.

I would also ask why some individuals don't want this building gifted, and what the "residents/taxpayers" really lose if they gain a public library that can function on a more reasonable schedule. Who profits from this deal? I would say someone who is a general contractor, who might have future designs on building a new building for the Library District (i.e. Riley Hill) might not be the best person to speak "for the public at large". Just be open about your intentions City Council, Riley, et. al. "


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