" Did you read the stuff from the teachers? Did you not get the point? They did try at least. Coaches tried. They tried until they reached their breaking points. You can only speak with the kid and the Monster-Mom so many times before you realize that she wouldn't let him be held accountable.

The issue here is that a kid has been ruined by the worthless, worthless, worthless parenting ablilty of his mother. Call it harsh, but if my kid grows up to be the same way, I would deserve the same criticism. "

" Did I just read the word "slanger"? I'm embarrassed for you AND OHS. This has nothing to do with football. Get a life and move on. "

" You obviously did go to Ontario High School. You cant even spell. What is slanger? Dont blame this on the Payette school district. Loren Stewart is a trouble maker, plain and simple. He was when he was attending Payette. I dont think we need to hang the kid, but he does deserve to pay for what he did. Hopefully its not just a slap on the wrist this time. Oh, one more thing for you. Football is not everything, education is quite a bit more valuable. Dont talk smack about Payette because they dont have a perfect football program, they are getting a better education. Anyone can run with a football, not everyone knows how to be smart. "

" SO CAN ANYONE ANSWER ME THIS? IS THIS LOREN STEWART KID SON OF DOUG STEWART? IF IT IS NO WONDER WHY HE IS LIKE THAT.. I REMEMBER WHEN DOUG WAS IN SCHOOL HE THOUGHT HE WAS PRETTY TUFF..WELL UNTIL...LOL "

" This is not about you and the navy. Get over your self. "

" It looks like kids wrote most of the complaints. I hold more worry for the future now : ( More mobs for the Romans to muster. "

" Seneca must have bumped the jalepeno prune juice production for this guy's acquaintances! Maybe he should feel lucky no lynch mobs showed up.

Still, for all your gripes I only see a lot of griping. Don't tell me you couldn't do something. It's smack and in the end it's still not satisfying.

It stinks that Loren went down this path. I don't even know the person to be honest but all the drama is a little much. If you just sat there waiting for mayhem to finally remove him you are as wrong.

Think about this the next time. "

" The reason Loren is the way he is really doesn't have much to do with the Stewart part in him. Read the blogs and you will get the point. "

" we have a BUBBA ourselves thank you very much ! i think it's kinda funny how people wanna think that mr. star football player should be cut some slack but, yet when it comes to our jente (younger then lauren not knowing any better ) the so called great "system " wants to mak ean example of them ....so, can't handle a dose of your own medicine hu? Q_VO "

" Oh please, let it go. I am amazed at the time being wasted by the community on this story. My gosh, you'd think Loren Stewart was in on the Kennedy assassination. How about focusing your collective energies on something of greater impact to this community and something that taxpayers have some say in. We have a president-elect that wants to create a national health care system. A president-elect that has stated the first bill he would sign when he takes office is the Freedom of Choice Act, a bill which will make any form of abortion, at any stage of a pregnancy, legal. A bill that would make it legal when an infant is born alive in a botched partial-birth abortion to be set aside and allowed to die. How can we get so incensed about the death penalty, about punks running amok in the streets, and yet look the other way when infants are being killed? Put your indignation to good use. Fight a battle worth fighting, whether it be against abortion, higher taxes, bail-out bills, amnesty for illegal immigrants, and so on. Leave families with personal troubles alone. It doesn't matter if the Stewarts have it coming to them or not, what happens to Loren has little or no bearing on our lives. What our government is doing to our country does. Get up in arms about something important. Our country needs people who care. Get involved! Please. "

" My nephew is not much different from his stupid Uncle. I probably wasn't graced with all the brains, but had a future in sports and let a lot of people down. The pressures of being an athlete can sometimes lead you down a wrong trail. I know it personally as I too had talent. Every week in the paper and then the let down after it's over. The United States Navy has been good to me, and if I had to do it all over again. I wouldn't have played sports. I would have just worked and been a better citizen. I truly know how Loren feels. He's a good kid with a lot of problems! Most of all our family is hard working and I know that the embarrassment is eating them up. I won't apologize for any of his actions but I am forever sorry for mine. I hope that Loren gets the breaks that I did and that those that condemn him or my family understand that peer pressure and image as well as drugs, parties and being 19 can make you somewhat invincible. I know first hand as I have always felt like I let the community down and I escaped to the Navy. After 22 years, in the Navy I have realized that Loren has a lot in common with me. I pray that he isn't sentenced as a felony and that he just like his Uncle before will find his niche'. I would like to thank the people of the community that also defended my family name, as we are not bad people, but are also not beyond making mistakes.
Very Respectfully,

Tim Stewart "

" Yes, he's always been a problem. And think what educational opportunities and resources were wasted on this kid that could have been spent on others attending the public schools. I don't think it's fair to say that the school failed him. His parents thought they were doing what's best for him, but they have enabled and encouraged him in all the wrong directions. And neither parent was a terrific example of self-management. I think boot camp is a great idea. It may save his life. "

" So your an old team mate from when Loren played for those Payette Pirates!! Ya well luckily he left to play for a better team of the Ontario Tigers! So maybe you were one of the players that new as well as teachers and the Payette principle that knew your great football coach that went beyond his rights.. and you know what im talking about. Payette School District needs to maybe shut their mouths and not slanger Ontario or judge Loren for all the crap you made him go through!
-Ontario Pride 2007- "

" So i have known Loren for a few years now and have known about the east side gang since well middle school. i grew up in ontario and graduated from ontario. Ya loren has made some bad choices but do any of you even know him? Do you know anything about his past at payette and why he had to come to ontario? Everyone judges from what you hear you dont know the facts. And for the one who says he didnt earn his h.s diploma is crazy! He didnt have it easy at OHS he was the star football player he was to do everything he could to be a pro. He was not favored by the teachers, sorry dont know where you got your information. Then seriously who is talking about his mom? Do you know her or Lorens family? This is really depressing to me... Lorens parents were some of the strictest parents i knew ya he went out with his friends but grades, curfew, and rules were set. For the parents that are talking bad, slanging his parents i really hope it doesnt bite you in the butt. And what you all only have anything to say about Loren not Juvie or the other east sider? Ya well thats probably smart of you guys. Ya he hung with them but never was he jumped in, leave him alone, and the other ones. Everyone makes mistakes all of you need a life. Wait till the judge passes judgemnet. They will go to jail but screw the idea of boot camp trust me that doesnt do anything for kids that grow up around here. I know. They will come back and get in the same problems. You need to live the life they have and the kids that grow up in Ontario now a days. You have no idea what goes on in the streets.
-Ontario Pride 2007- "

" If I had a dollar for everytime I heard that the Stewarts are going to get a lawyer and sue over something, I would be a rich man...Nothing ever becomes of it because they are liars and never have a leg to stand on. "

" Matthew 7:17 - a good tree cannot produce worthless fruit, neither can a worthless tree produce fine fruit. "

" I don't know what kind of "education" you have in mind, but it is clear that these kids (there were 3 of them) need to learn about consequences. Doesn't the military have a program for little deviants like this? I fear that prison will only reinforce their bad choices. Send them to boot camp, where they can learn to be useful contributors, instead of leeches. "

" In July of 2003 he was charged with theft, believe it happend at Lonnies in Payette, Got put on probation for it.

Two years later almost to the date he was charged with disturbing the peace and probation violations.

He was well on his way to trouble, it was going to intensify, this wasn't his first "mistake". And those charges are only what he has had in Idaho, i don't know anything about Oregon if he had anything or not there. "

" Now it's coming around. It sounds pretty clear that this kid was and still is a punk. His teachers have made themselves heard. His fellow students and team mates have been heard. Even people from the community have said what a jerk he is. The school seems to have failed him, huh???

I am pretty sure it wasn't his teachers, though. If you can believe any part at all of the teacher and student comments, then it was the damned Ontario School administration who enabled this waste of space. What did the principal do when the teacher complained of Loren's behavior? It sounds like he knuckled under to the litigious mother.

Great example! "

" WHAT CRAP! Loren had ALL the chances in the world to be educated. Teachers "bent over" backwards for him. He whined, slammed doors, cussed, talked back, was disrespectful, destroyed school property. His Mother, however, was WAY worse. God help any of the teachers in Payette, OR for that matter Ontario. That kid was hell in the classroom. And all you teacher haters can shove it because he got EVERY CHANCE THERE WAS AND MORE to get it right. His diploma was completely undeserved. What a sham. He wasted so much of everyone else's time being stupid and thinking he was cool and funny. Man. The things he got away with 'cause Mommey could pay for a lawyer and wasn't afraid to yell at the top of her lungs. Sham. "

" Meth! It destroys! It kills! My thoughts are with the parents! May the higher power help you two get through these tough times. "

" What I see is a lost little boy who needs to be educated. Education will change lives. Yes - he made mistakes that he will pay for. Yes - he may make mistakes in the future. Nothing goes without consequence and he will have to pay the consequences of his behavior however, with education and Gods grace he could still get back on the right path. Instead of gathering the community to condemn our kids we must gather the community to educate our kids. Every one has the possibility to change. Do not let your/his past behaviors define your/his future. "

" Loren Stewart deserves whatever he gets. He may say that he wasn't hang with the wrong crowd but all along we know he has been. Whatever sentence they give Loren he deserves what he gets. "

" Regardless of who these thugs thing they are and what they think they can get away with, they have forever changed the lives of their victims. This is a small town and even if these individuals where know to the victims, do you not think they had some pretty terrible moments, being held up by knife point. not to mention everything else. what about the neighborhood that was terrified to go out of their houses as police swarmed the block screaming get back in your houses. These kids are lazy little punks, who for what ever reason decided it was easier to steal and strong arm there way through life. I don't know the parents, but I do know the kids where little punk wannabes. Parents stand by your kids. Of course you will, what parent wouldn't. stand by them don't carry them. let them grow up and learn. life sucks when you do stupid things. I pray I never have to go through this, however it is a fact. It can happen to anyone. as far as people saying loren was hanging with the wrong crowd, hey that works both ways. Maybe they where hanging with the wrong crowd. I can tell you one thing. Think about how upset those parents or the kids who where robbed are. Let them be the judge for what happens to these kids. spoiled little punks beware. the world is getting sick of you. Grow up, get jobs and move out of your mommy and daddy's houses. get a life. "

" Most of us do not raise our children to be jerks, and are embarrassed when they do act that way. However, LS's parents created this monster. "

" I have known Loren since he was in middle school, and he has always been a jerk. For those of you who say that he just started hanging out with the wrong crowd...I was his teacher, he has always been this way. "

" How dare you get on here and blog about what people know or do not know. You are not any better, you get on here and tell people what they believe is wrong and they really do not know what they are talking about. I for one did not see anyone saying that they are better parents. What I did see was alot of personal experiences that all sounded simaler in nature when dealing with these people. So, step down from the soap box and go look in the mirror. "

" It always amazes me how people get on these blogs and bawl out other bloggers for their lack of finesse. I guess nobody told them that this is a modern form of communication and sites like this are designed as a place where you can say what you think. Every time some local individual gets in trouble with the law, there's always somebody posting their version of, "IF YOU CAN'T SAY SOMETHING NICE, DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL." Boo hoo! "

" I mean to tell you, this is a sorry situtation. Pathetic on your part....with speculations, half information and apparent hurt feelings from your past experiences or perceptions. ?? Sure everyone is entitled to freedom of speech...but I bet the old boys who wrote the Constitution roll over in their graves when they see it used this way.

Hey Argus Observer, your TERMS OF USE state......"Writers that include .....personal attacks or other inappropriate comments......will not be approved for the blogs".

What's up? You finding all of this appropriate or helpful in any way? "

" I am so glad I live in a town of perfect parents and perfect children. I'm convinced that if we looked through a microscope at the families of these judgmental vultures they would all make the front page as Parents of the Year. Then we could blog about how wonderful they are and how their children have never done anything wrong and how we all wish we could be just like them.

But there are no perfect parents or perfect children. You sit in front of your computer thinking, "At least my kid isn't THAT bad. At least my kid hasn't done anything like THAT." Well, good for you. But I'd be very careful about taking all the credit for that, or assuming it will continue. Kids have their own personalities and some, it seems, have to learn everything the hard way. Sometimes kids get off course regardless of how good a parent we may be. But I guess you don't know anything about that because all of your kids have been such a joy to everyone who has ever come in contact with them in their entire lives, and it's all because you're such a fabulous parent.

No one says, "I'm going to raise my kid to be a jerk or a criminal." We all do the best we can and the best we know how as parents, but we are also a product of our own upbringing and life experiences. All parents defend their children sometimes when they may not deserve it and have blinders on regarding their behavior. So you "know" them because of high school football. Four years or less out of someone's life and you're an expert. You have no idea what has gone on in their lives. None of you has the right to pass judgment on someone else when you've never walked in their shoes. You think you can go to a football game, overhear part of a conversation, or learn third-hand some adolescent gossip and now you know all about these people. How many of you would like to hear what your peers, co-workers, classmates, neighbors and village idiots think about you? What if everyone could anonymously write in and tell just exactly what they think about your parenting skills, your personality, your children or grandchildren, your choices, and your decisions - and they would have the opportunity to do that during one of the worst times in your life. Kick 'em while they're down.

And because you have deemed the Stewarts to be such terrible people (because you know them SO well), they deserve ALL the pain they are in right now. In fact, they deserve more. They deserve every ugly, spiteful, pathetic word of criticism and condemnation you can come up with - without using your real name, of course. I mean, they're bad parents, right? They didn't do it the way you you thought they should. As a parent around here - or a child - you apparently only get one chance. You screw up and you're out of here. No mercy, no redemption, no chance to learn, improve or change. Plus, we're going to spit on you on the way out.

The kid has messed up. He's made some bad choices and has some real issues he'll have to face. But you're saying it would make you feel really good if at 19 he suffered unspeakable horrors and his life would essentially be over? All because he was mean to you or you didn't like his mom? Spineless backstabbing people like you scare me a whole lot more than the Stewarts do.

But I guess you don't have to worry about that because you're perfect, and your kids are perfect. What a great town. "

" These guys put innocent people on the ground with a knife, because of their actions they deserve what they get. NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE! "

" "Police dispatch was then informed of the robbery and the vehicle was then located on Southwest Fifth Avenue at Southwest Fourth Street"

When the police may be looking for you, don't drive to the Police station. "

" if u do the crime u pay the time no matter who u are? it depends on how he was raised. he probaly need help or to talk to someone& know one would listen to him so he did what he thought was to get attention by someone "

" A.J.(For the First Time. .)I am nearly as much of a Pollyanna as you are, and admit to being a little uncomfortable with the things being said in this blog. The other side of it is that my toes and the toes of my kids are still bruised from years of being stepped on by this kid and his domineering parents. Repeatedly, he took advantage of every opportunity, showing no gratitude to others, no compassion, no respect. The world, it seemed, revolved around Loren, and everybody else was disposable. Let this be a lesson to parents of strong-willed children: we have to work on these things when they're little or we will pay the price later on. "

" Conspiracy to commit a crime usually carries a greater penalty than the crime itself. That is what he faces, buddy. "

" AJ, you say that we should know more before we write, eh? How well do you know anyone who has been affected by this reprobate? Were you a football player on the OHS team? Did you have to listen to the endless litany of how great he was? He would always talk about the crap he was doing and putting it in other kids' faces that they couldn't get away with the stuff he got away with: The heavy drinking during the season and his rampant drug use and promiscuity that he talked about so freely.

Did you have a kid who was eager to get a chance to play for any college team at all, only to have Loren ridicule him and his new school.

Is it any wonder that people are jumping on the slander wagon? The truth is that you get what you give. It has caught up with him. "

" I was at the Sisters game as well.

I was in the locker room after the game, talking to players.

Stewart told me that he felt like he let his whole team down. He could barely look me in the eye. He seemed on the verge of tears.

Beyond that, I really didn't know the kid.

But I do know I drove all the way home to Ontario thinking about that one play and that no matter what, Stewart would never forget it.

I felt sorry for him just like I do now. "

" Fortunately for us hate-mongers there was a document made about 200 years ago that lets us say whatever we want to in a public setting.

As for this beloved local family, I may have some Oregon pride boiling in my body, but he comes from Payette. He was sent to Ontario by his enabling mommy so he could run his way into infamy.

This guy is a punk, pure and simple. Let's admit it and move on.

As for signing my name, sure:
Jon Adams
Thomas Jefferson
You get the point "

" It sounds to me like LS has really urked a large number of folks. It is clear through this format that many are taking the opportunity to vent their long stuffed frustrations. Little news flash: Oregon has taken steps to make sure that certain crimes have minimum consequences. You speak as if you will never hear or see of this young man again. Luckily he will not be tried by public opinion and through negotiations and legal manuvers he will be adeqately judged by a jury of his peers. He will either remain a member of society or will become on after he serves a determined sentence....LS, like many other young people has made and will continue to make poor choices. If this community does not set aside their personal prejudice and try to see this matter in a bigger picture...he and others of his mis-fortune will continue to consume our tax dollars in a non-productive manner. I beg of you...don't stoop to his level....find a way to bring him up to yours....lets find a way to put a positive twist on this very nasty situation. "

" that the 3 recent posts standing up for Loren all signed there names at the end of their posts. Hey, I know maybe it's because it is the same person. If not why not sign your real full name...Good try.. "

" First, I will say that all of the bashing listed below is right on from my experience and from those I have spoken with for the last several years.

Second, I would like to add to it. One of his fellow members of the track team told me that a coach kicked him off the team. The student said he was a huge slacker and super lazy. He assumed that he would be handed everything he wanted because of his football prowess. Now, this may or may not be true and I don't know who the track coach was or even how to find out, but it sounds plausible.

Next I want to spread rumors. Loren was busted for Meth and Marijuana a short time ago. Then he continues to go on and on about his gang connections. So, let's see:
1. Huge Ego - Check
1a. Stupid - Check
2. Gang connections - Check
2a. Stupid - Check Check
3. Drug addictions - Check
3a. Stupid -Check Check Check
4. Armed robbery - Check
4a. Stupid - Check Mate

Well my friend Sherlock tells me that these things point to huge drug debt and the only way for him to pay it was to steal the money. Of course he chose to rob the place that just fired him. Did I mention he is STUPID!!!

I would like to end with a personal annecdote.

I attended the playoff game against Sisters in 2007. As everyone said and should still say "It was one of the greatest games I have ever seen played." Both teams deserved credit for the win and it was a shame one team had to loose. I walked onto the field amongst our Tiger players and congratulated them for a great year and a very hard fought game. I saw a great number of tears on faces of young men who had given their all. I was moved by how much emotion they were showing. I did see Loren and thought to myself that maybe, just maybe he would learn something from that experience.

I was wrong. But that is what life is about really. Doing something or thinking something or trying something new, only to find out that you were going about it the wrong way. We then must apply ourselves to finding out why we were wrong and how to do or make it right. That last process is called maturity. It takes patience to mature, and it cannot be bought and canot be given to you by your mommy. And it is one of those things that you will NEVER receive if you demand it. You must work your butt off to mature and accept your lumps and bumbs along the way.

This is the sad story about a young man who was told by his parents that only what you get away with matters. He was not held accountable for his misbehaviors. His teachers had no recourse with him. His teammates could not make him see the benefits of hard work. His greatest football loss couldn't wake him up. Maybe a long stay in prison will change him for the better. But, I have my doubts now. I was wrong about him in the past and my maturity allows me to say that he may never change. "

" For all the "know it alls" out there jumping down on young L.Stewart...how bout asking the Argus to be more clear in their reporting. The article says L.S. was arrested as driver, it goes on to say 2 men were charged with 4 counts of burglary, etc. LS wasn't charged for those things. It sounds like it...but he wasn't. Even if you didn't like the guy, get your facts straight before condemnation. ZCurt "

" Well, for the first time, I am ashamed to live in this community. It is horrid that fellow citizens could ridicule and self convict a person to the extent of what I have read about this kid Loren Stewart. I read...he's 19. And I have read about him being a talented athelete. Ever even ponder he could have made a mistake? Ever even ponder how it would feel to pick up a newspaper and read all the sickening rude hateful comments some of you have written? I know I've made a couple mistakes in my life. Surely some of you out there have made mistakes. Some of you sound like you are taking out your own short comings and blaming it all on him?! Anybody ever think the Stewart family could use some support? Anybody out there offering any 'kind' words or help of any kind? Is there ANYONE out there brave enough to reach out to Loren and see if you could help him or take the time to really find out what has been happening in his life? Really stop and THINK people, of what it must feel like to read all your sickening comments. I am appalled by you. I am hoping the best for the Stewart family and I hope they can forgive all of you. AJ "

" Take a moment and listen to yourselves. Here's a guy that messed up. O.k., People mess up. Let the law do their job. But the folks out there that are blogging hate mail....??....you are pathetic and should be held accountable for your actions!! Seriously, this kid is facing the law. But you adults and young men & women that are blogging, should be punished to the highest extent of the law for doing what you are doing to the this family as well. Wishing bad karma and relishing in the heartache of a local family is beyond words to me. The Stewarts are a local family! One of our tax paying citizens. One of our own. They have feelings, they have extended family, they have lives here too. They happen to be respected and loved by many. They do not deserve this type of drama nor your pathetic attempts at making yourselves feel better. Facts are...YOU DON'T KNOW THE FACTS about this situation! Let the family do what is right for their son and their family. You would definitely expect the same. God forbid any of YOU ever have any unfortunate situation come to any of your loved ones. Keep your email and your hate mail blogging out of a public forum. THis hate mail thing has got to stop. It is perpetuating gossip and worse. Hate mail via bloggin should be against the law....each of you should be responsible for your purposely careless, hurtful words. You are using a public forum as a way to strike out to a person whom you have convicted before even the judge or law has had any say. I think each of you hate mongers should be held liable for your words in this column. You are guilty and should be charged with abuse and hate crimes to your fellow man. Furthermore, you should have to sign who you are. Be accountable for your actions and words. Frank A. "

" That is a great way to explain it...he would not have been sorry if he got away, and never been caught. "

" There is a difference between being sorry for getting caught and being sorry for your actions. "

" I beg to differ with whoever is posting as Loren. I did know him, and all the details and everything that has been written so far is absolutely true! He was arrogant, self centered, spoiled and lazy. He thought the sun rose and set with him, and his dear sweet mother helped him with that image. Nothing he did was ever his fault,and she ran to his aid every time he stumbled. I for one was hoping reality would walk up and smack him in the face before he stole his diploma so that he would wake up and smell the coffee. After all his bluster and bragging about how wonderful he was, it was great to see that none of the big schools wanted him. I am thrilled that he is finally seeing some consequences of his actions. "

" All the posters know him enough to post by the way he has lived his life and treated people. It is a parents job to stand behind there children, but it is also the parents job to hold the children responsible when they have done something wrong. That is the problem here. He has never been held accountable by his parents, in fact they would always be the first to bully there way around to get him out of any trouble. And, you are right people make mistakes and Loren has never once learned anything from his or he would not be in this situation. "

" real gangsters dont brag about it
the loudest one in the room is the weakest one!!! "

" I personally played and blocked for Loren helping him win player of the week and he bashed me and my fellow team mates as quickly as he left Payette, where he would stay in the back of the pack during conditioning never once trying to make his fellow team mates better.I agree he had fast feet but could not hit a hole to save his life. It is a shame that he let what god given talent he had go to waste by making poor decisions, trying to be Mister gangster-gangster and we'll see how gangster-gangster he is while in prison, but I do wish good things for him in the future either he'll get worse or better from this experience, I hope the latter Maybe this will help him. "

" You all write like adults but you sound like very immature people. You dont even know the facts or Loren very well..we all make mistakes and im sure he's feeling guilty, which make some of the things you people say un-called for. And if it were my kid i would totally 100% be behind him no matter what. You learn from your mistakes! "

" Well, well well Mr. Perfect, Mr. Fabulous, Mr. Football-frickin' legend. That boy, and mentally he is a "boy", treated people like crap. No one was immune...he used and disgarded and made fun of and used and bullied and used and abused and tortured and marginalized and used and stole...(you get the picture)anyone he could - and the sick part is that he got away with it. Other writers are right. His mommy-dearest came to his aid and did nothing but defend and lie like a rug. What a great influence in her. He had a full gig and a good one at SOU (the only place that would take him) where he told the coaches to take their college and their money and shove it. He apparently was lucky that not many people watched the shrine game in Baker. He acted so badly, so immaturely that he was kicked out of the game. Why was he even there? He was no one. There were lifelong Ontario kids out on the field with him that put their heart and soul into the team and they were overlooked for a no good shortimer with fast feet.

Ladies and Gentlemen, Karma is alive and well in Ontario and I've never been more pleased about it. He deserves absolutely everything he gets. Loren Stewart is guilty of way more than he'll EVER be charged with. "

" Iis his parents. Every time he got into trouble, they would be right there bailing him out, always blaming the other parties involved. They wont be getting him out of this one and it's about time. "

" Take a look at this Loren kids myspace page... He proudly states that he is the newest member of a gang, and also says "F%&* everyone". The proof of his character is right there. He would fit in in professional sports though.... in prison next to Michael Vick. "

" Well, all I can tell you is that Loren Stewart felt the world ws his for the taking, simply because he could carry a football. His parents pressured the school to enable him him get away with doing nothing and being rewarded for it to the point that he believed he could do whatever he wanted without having any consequences. That attitude is what kept himout of UCLA, BSU or any college with standards. It also explains why he was "in the wrong place at the wrong time". He acted as if it was cool to associate with gang affiliated students at OHS. They even had a street name for him. Well, Loren, looks like you'll get your wish. You'll be behind bars with the rest of your homies. "

" Does anyone know if the third guy involved was or xcube or gr4?
I here they are real intimidating gangsters. "

" is a waste of talent. "

" as great as we all thought he was. Stewart could have gone many places to play football, kid had talent. But when you get mixed up in the wrong crowd, your bound to get burned from the fire. Both boys deserve the max punishment for their crimes. "

" Do you know Loren? I don't think you do because if you did you would know that this sounds like something Loren would be right in the middle of... "

" To: wow

Even though we are all human and make mistakes including our officers, I highly doubt that he is "innocent" by any means, but he'll get his day in court and he'll take a plea like they all do, because rarely is the wrong man arrested because from my understanding it usually takes a good amount of evidence to prosicute someone for a crime. Sure, he might not be as involved as stated, but regardless he was there and involved in some way, and that makes him just as guilty as the rest of them.

IMO,if you commit a crime with your buddy, you both should be help responsible for anything that happens during the time frame that you were working together to commit the crime. Once you seperate and go your own ways, then you are only help accountable for your own actions at that time. but in the same room, throwing the same people down to the ground, if someone was to get hurt or killed, all 3 should be prosecuted for it. "

" What a dirt bag. "

" Loren is hanging around dirtbags, that makes him a dirtbag. Admit it he is guilty. He wants to hang with the gansters, let him go to prison where they should all be. "

" Nice support for your fellow man....this is still America and a person is innocent till proven guilty. I hope the best for Loren Stewart and sincerely hope he is not as involved as stated. There can be other scenarios than what the Argus and Ontario PD have reported thus far. Let's keep that in mind till we know more of the facts. "

" Those boys would have indeed been real tough, lookin down the barrel of a .45! "

" "Oh loren stewart, oh we love loren, he is the best football player we will ever see...He is going to UCLA, no he is going to Notre Dame....Oh wait that idiot is going to Prison...they'll lube ya up well in county, so you'll be all set!" "

" Ya, get 'em OPD. Sick of these thugs thinking they can just take what they want. When they meet "Bubba" in prison, they'll really be thinking this little robbery of theirs was a bad idea.

Those boys would have been in for a surprise if me or many others in this area were in the store at that time that have a concealed weapons permit, unless their little blade had a bullet proof vest attached to it.

And who hides on top of a house?! lol I mean seriously, not saying I could out smart the cops or would even try, but I could of found a better spot than on top of a house, lol. "

" Dumb is as dumb does... "

" as to the 3rd member of the trio... "

" Loren may have been fast on the football field, but apparently not fast enough. "