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Police issue warning on ‘new’ drug
An herb, dubbed salvia divinorum, has caught the attention of local authorities



ONTARIO—The Ontario Police Department is warning parents about an herb with hallucinogenic properties their children could be using to experience highs.

The herb, salvia divinorum, which according to information from the United States Drug Enforcement Agency is in the mint family, can be either smoked or chewed for psychedelic effects.

OPD Capt. Mark Alexander said he just learned about the herb and its dangers from Payette County Sheriff Chad Huff who told Alexander he heard the herb was being used in the area.

Alexander said, after researching the substance on the Internet, he was quite concerned children could be using it. At this point, he said, a lot is unknown about its use in the area and whether it’s becoming a problem.

“What we want to know is, are we seeing the bad effects of it, and I don’t know at this point,” he said. Huff said a concerned Fruitland resident notified him he had heard teens in the area were using  salvia divinorum or trying it and asked if he had heard about it. Huff said, after some research, he was concerned enough to approach other law enforcement officers about salvia divinorum, some of whom had heard of it.

“I don’t know how new it is, as far as this area,” Huff said. “It’s got me a little concerned because it’s legal.”

The herb contains the chemical salvinorin A, which is the active component that produces the effects, according to DEA information. Alexander said information on the herb, including ways to purchase it, can be easily found on the Internet, and it is also sold through the brand name Purple Sticky Salvia. Alexander said, it can also be purchased in pipe or tobacco stores, of which there are two in Ontario. He said he spoke to the owners of the two stores, about whether they sell the product, which is legal in Oregon. He said one owner said he did not because he is aware how it can be used and doesn’t wish to promote that.

The owner at Old School, Victoria Miller, the second business, however, said she did sell it but was not aware how it was used, Alexander said.

“The store owner claimed it’s for incense and knew nothing more than that,” Alexander said. Miller said she sells it as an aromatic incense as a powder and as leaves, which are currently not in stock. Miller said, while she is aware some people use it for its effects through looking at the Internet, she does not know how it is used.

“I’m nobody’s mother. I sell things that are legal to sell,” Miller said, adding she does not know how customers use the product or what they do with it. She also said she doesn’t sell anything to anybody younger than 18.

“I don’t sell incense to anybody under 18,” she said. MIller did indicate the incense was popular at her store, but she doesn’t keep track of how much she sells. Alexander said the police department is not trying to target people who sell it because it’s legal in most states, including Idaho and Oregon, nor is it that hard to find, regardless. He said Miller indicated she would pull it from the shelves at Old School, but that is not why he is concerned about the substance.

“And if that’s what she decides to do, then that’s great,” he said, adding what he has read about the substance and its side effects concern him.

Alexander said he is also concerned the incense label is just a way to get around describing its true purpose and that parents may not think anything of it if they see in their children’s possession.

While salvia divinorum apparently is fairly expensive, and there are other everyday products teens have been known to abuse that are far less costly, Alexander said he hopes to stop any problems that could originate from using the substance.

Miller, however, said she believes there is a different substance police should be worried over children using.

“What they really should be concerned about is a thing called moonflowers, and it’s killing kids,” she said, adding it can be found growing wild in the region.




Comment Blog - Note: All Comments Subject To Approval

JIM P. wrote on Dec 24, 2008 8:34 AM:

" SO THERE ARE A FEW OF US THAT AGREE TOTALLY. I HAVE THE EXACT SAME OPINON, AND HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT ALL THE MAIN PONTS BELOW.. I HAVE ALSO ASKED A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SHARE THIS IDEA OF LEGALIZATION.. BUT IF A PACK OF STUD JOINTS WERE TO COST 50-60 DOLLARS I WOULD STILL PAY FOR IT..

THEY SAY THAT THAY HAVE NO WAY OF REGULATING PERSONAL GROW ROOMS AND SUCH IF IT WERE LEGAL.. WELL TO OUR GOVERNMENT.. MAKE YOURS THE BEST, THEN NO ONE WILL NEED TO GROW THEIR OWN. MOST OF MY CONSTITUENTS WOULD PAY UP TO $100.00 PER PACK.. THERE IS DEFINITELY MORE IN A STUD PACK THAN A QUARTER.. "

legalize it wrote on Dec 23, 2008 5:32 PM:

" I agree, just legalize it. It's just pure ignorance to say marijuana is such a bad thing, and to do this while drinking a beer, which by the way has more than double the effect of marijuana, but you can only know this and be a true critic if you have tried both and know the health effects of both.

Not to mention all the tax money spent on keeping marijuana out of the US...it's not going to happen. Meth, yes, Crank, Yes, Cocaine, Yes, list goes on but yes, those are bad drugs. How did marijuana get thrown into that list? Alcohol should of been there WAY before marijuana thats for sure.

Might as well tax it and make millions off of it to go towards good things like schools and other educational resources for young america. But no, lets spend it busting people who aren't really doing anything bad, ruin their lives and their families lives, then throw them in jail and ruin my life by making me pay thousands in taxes just to keep them there.

The over-all view on marijuana is the way it is because too many people are dumb enough to believe everything they hear rather than do their own research and develope a non-biased opinion.

They used to put out reports not too long ago saying that one puff of marijuana would kill you. LOL, yeah, considering, in practical terms, marijuana cannot induce a lethal response as a result of drug-related toxicity, meaning you would have to smoke something like 1500lbs of it in 30minutes for the chemicals in the plant to kill you.

And another reason to legalize it....so I can be out in my garage with the door open while working on my hot rod and wave to the neighbors, much like a guy would do if he was in the same garage working on the same car, but drinking a beer. Makes no sense to me. So for now, I'll keep that garage door shut, but that needs to be changed soon and it will, I just can't wait. "

To Jim wrote on Dec 23, 2008 9:54 AM:

" I really wish that they would just legalize pot and get it over with. People who are against legalization are usually people who haven't ever used it before. Just because the media and our government says its bad, doesnt make it true. When else would you trust our government to make a true statement? Or even a reasonable decision from right or wrong. I agree with making it legal. I mean, why is pot so frowned about when alcohol has caused a countless amount of problelms? The only side affect of marijuana that I know of is munchies. Never even heard of a person being violent on weed, not even sure if its possible. Now, I dont agree with daily use, or using while driving. I know it isnt as bad as it has been made out to be. In fact, I will bet everyone here knows someone who smokes a little grass every once and a while. Do you know which person they are? Probably not, but they are smokers. Who knows, maybe even your best friend, but they just dont want you to know. You just might disown them if you knew. Really, would you? "

JIM P. wrote on Dec 22, 2008 9:51 AM:

" SO THANKFUL PARENT AND OTHERS..
IF YOU HAVE READ THE BLOGS THEN MAYBE YOU WOULD REMEMBER THAT I WRITE IN CAPS SO THAT I CAN FIND MY LAST BLOG AND READ UP FROM IT. IT MAKES IT QUICKER.
SINCE YOU PEOPLE ARE JUST UN-EDUCATED. ALL THOSE BOTTLES OF BRAKE KLEEN OR SODA POPS OR OTHER REGULAR PRODUCTS THAT ARE SOLD IN THE SAME DISPLAY ARE "STASH" CANS. MAYBE IF YOU WOULD HAVE DONE SOME "INVESTIGATING" YOU WOULD REALIZE THAT THOSE STASH CANS ARE FAKE PACKAGES SO THAT KIDS CAN KEEP THERE "STASH" IN PLAIN SIGHT IN THEIR ROOMS AND IN THEIR CARS. IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW THESE CANS WORK AND WANT TO KNOW THEN GO INTO OLD SCHOOL AND ASK TO CHECK IT OUT. THEY WILL GLADLY SHOW YOU. IT PHYSICALLY HIDES THIGS INSIDE WHILE ODORS MAY STILL REMAIN. I AM A PREANT AND THE ONLY WAY FOR PARENTS TO EDUCATE THEIR KIDS ABOUT THIS TYPE OF THING IS TO GET INVOLVED AND STAY UP ON THESE CHANGING TIMES.
I LIKE TO BLOG ON MY BREAKS AND IT TAKES NO TIME TO DO SO. EVEN IF I EDUCATE ONE OF YOU "OLD TIMERS" IT IS WORTH IT. OBVIOUSLY THE OLD THINGS THAT USED TO WORK NO LONGER WORK ANYMORE. OTHER WISE PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE GETTING INTO METH AND OTHER MAN MADE SHTUFF.. "GOD PUT ALL THE SEED BEARING PLANTS ON THIS EARTH TO USE"
SMALL TOWN MENTALITY IS GOOD IN A SENSE BUT YOU WILL STILL HAVE TO CONFORM SOONER OR LATER.. I JUST LIKE THE FACT THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LEGALIZE POT IN MY LIFETIME.. "

A Thankful Parent wrote on Dec 21, 2008 7:35 PM:

" Thanks to the Argus for printing the story. Thanks to our local Law Enforcement for putting out the info. Hopefully the store does stop selling it. Jim P. How did you investigate this product? I checked out the Old School shop (for the first time) and I was shocked. How many people use a bong to smoke cigs? Nobody that I know of. This place is a drug paraphernalia shop and nothing more. They sell "gunk" spare tire in a can and brake-clean. Why do you think they sell these? What a joke. This place should actually sell some blown glass items (not just dope pipes and bongs) or get out of town. Just my opinion. "

to BIG JIM P wrote on Dec 21, 2008 2:30 PM:

" I occassionally read the blogs on the Argus website but have never responded. I can't help but wonder why you feel the need to blog nearly every story. Maybe I am speaking for myself or there again maybe not but I think you need to find something better to do with your time. Also if you push the button on the left side of the key pad "caps lock", you will find this solves the issue of your script in all capital letters. Wow amazing huh? "

Exiled wrote on Dec 19, 2008 7:05 PM:

" Jim P obviously hasn't done his own research. "

JIM P. wrote on Dec 19, 2008 11:55 AM:

" TURD-- WELL PAYETTE IS A NICE COMMUNITY, BUT IT COULD HAVE THE SAME SMALL TOWN MENTALLITY AND STAY ON TOP OF THE BOARD. BEING A SMALL TOWN MAKES IT EASY TO CHANGE THINGS WHEN CHANGE BECOMES APPARENT. BUT THE CITY FOLKS IN PAYETTE HAVE TO MANY PROBLEMS AT HOME THAT DISTRACT THEM FROM DOING THEIR JOB. THE MAYOR AND HIS SON... WHAT A JOKE OF A POSITION FOR DOUG TO TAKE..
THE SCHOOLS IN PAYETTE a.k.a "STONER HIGH" ARE ALL RUN AT THEIR ALL TIME LOWS.. NOW I LIKE HELEKER BUT AS FAR AS THE REST OF THE SCHOOL AUTHORITIES I THINK THEY NEED TO BE CHANGED MORE OFTEN TO KEEP IT FRESH... AND YES I ALSO AGREE THAT METH AND ALCOHOL ARE FAR MORE SUITABLE TO BE ILLEGAL THAN WEED OR SALVIA. BUT THE ARGUS PINS DOWN THIS HONEST BUSINESS WOMEN THAT HAS WORKED HARD TO DO WHAT SHE IS DOING AND THE LOCALS ABSOLUTELY HATE THAT SHE IS SELLING "TOBACCO" PRODUCTS.. SHE HAD TO STOP SELLING MAGAZINES TOO? WTF!
BEING FROM THE AREA I HAVE WITNESSED GANGS IN PAYETTE. THAT IS WHERE YOUR CLOSE MINDED ATTITUDE IS GOING TO SINK THE COMMUNITY IF IT IS SHARED BY OTHERS. SCUMBAGS THAT HANG TOGETHER BANG TOGETHER. "

To Turd wrote on Dec 19, 2008 11:10 AM:

" Payette is a dump, I would rather live in Caldwell. "

Turd Fergusson wrote on Dec 19, 2008 9:50 AM:

" Let me get this straight. You think that Payette has a gang problem. You must be smoking some of this stuff yourself. Ive lived in Payette for quite some time now and have yet to see any gangs. Scumbags, Yes. Gang problems, NO. And as for being left in the dust, not exactly. Most Payette residents actually enjoy the small town mentality of Payette. Its quiet, and quite peacefull. We stay a little behind for a reason. We dont want our town to be Californ-ized. Gangs are a problem in Ontario, but I see nothing in Payette or Fruitland. Weiser is another story, drugs and gangs is what I have always known of that place. Now, as for this so called "new drug". Im sure it has been around longer than you all think. In my personal opinion, I think that alcohol and meth are a bigger problem. A little pot or some salvia, big F'n deal. When is the last time you have heard of someone being stoned, and starting a fight because someone was looking at their girlfriend.
Or killed an entire family while driving under the influence of one of these two substances. Alcohol and Meth, Yes. Pot or salvia, dont think so. I think there are bigger things to be worried about. "

JIM P. wrote on Dec 18, 2008 9:21 AM:

" SO WHY IS IT A CRAPHOLE EVERY TIME A PERSON WANTS TO EARN A LIVING DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT? GET WITH THE TIME EASTERN OREGON... CHANGE IS HERE AND IF YOU DO NOT EMBRACE IT YOU WILL END UP LIKE PAYETTE. LEFT IN THE DUST.. THEN YOU WILL HAVE GANG PROBLEMS.. EMBRACE IT AND KEEP OUR TOWN THRIVING.!! "

wrote on Dec 17, 2008 8:31 PM:

" MILLER knows exactly what it is she told me herself u use it for a 5 to 15 minute high she cant say she didnt kno what it was and i hope they get enough info on her to shut that crap hole down "

JIM P. wrote on Dec 15, 2008 6:12 AM:

" SALVIA IS NOT REALLY THAT BAD. MY INVESTIGATION OF THIS "DRUG" -WHICH IS JUST AN HERB- IS THAT BY SMOKING THE THE ACTUAL HERB ITSELF IT SENDS YOUR MIND/BRAIN ON A VERY VERY DRUNK FEELING THAT CN LAST UP TO ABOUT 5 MINUTES. BUT THE HEAD SHOPS SELL THE SALVIA EXTRACT. I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF THAT. SO THERE MAYBE BE A CONCERN FOR THAT.. BUT THE HERB...JUST LIKE MOST... IS HARMLESS..
SAME RULES SHOULD APPLY TO IT.. NO DRIVING, OPERATING HEAVY EQUIPMENT, ETC... "

zaffera wrote on Dec 15, 2008 6:08 AM:

" I appreciate the Argus & the Police Dpt trying to keep parents informed about this "herb". Our children need to be educated about the effects of even "legal" substances. Unfortunately in todays society, there are too many parents that don't havae the "time to be parents". Our concern should not be that the article tells where to purchase this or what it does, but that we have not taught our children what it right and wrong. As a parent of a young teen & toddler myself, I know who my childs friends are, their parents and what, when and where my child is. If I suspect anything, I don't give in. There are always concequences for unacceptable actions. By nature, all of us are curious about new things, but we have to instill in our children that even though things are "legal", doesn't mean they are not harmfull. Cough medicine, cold medicine and even mouth wash, that can be purchased at local area stores can be just as dangerous, even deadly. I thank the police and Argus again for their information. All parents & children need to be on the look out for these and other new drugs on the streets. None of us should tollerate the use of such items by our children. It is our job as parents to raise "our future" to be the best it can be. There is no better time the the present to start. "

UNBELIEVABLE wrote on Dec 14, 2008 10:33 PM:

" WOW !!! I AGREE WITH "GREAT JOB ", I CANNOT BELIEVE THE ARGUS WOULD PUBLISH SUCH A STORY.
I HAVE A 14 YR OLD AND A 15 YR OLD THAT DOES READ THE PAPER EVERYDAY !! "

Great Job wrote on Dec 14, 2008 11:53 AM:

" I want to thank the Argus for this wonderful article. It was full of useful information about this drug. It tells all the kids out there that did not already know about it where to get it and what it does. The Argus even tells our children exactly where to go to buy it. Thanks again Argus! "


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