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former student wrote on Jan 9, 2009 6:53 PM:

" No, he was not related to any of the school staff or board. Just a jerk. School was afraid to get rid of him because of a law suit. But yet they let it go and still could have ended up in a law suit. cant win for losing.. "

get jiggy with it wrote on Oct 24, 2008 1:45 AM:

" This is toteach- I have a life. You are an idiot!! I am NOT starting rumors. Nor am I jealous of a female teacher who dresses like a teen that dances with her students. My mind is not in the gutter.I do not appreciate that comment. I am simply stating it is unethical.It leaves teachers wide open for accusations.Let's say a student gets mad at a teacher. Decides to lie and say inappropriate touch happened during a dance? Then what? I do not live in a small town anymore, 6 yrs was plenty. You can keep your simple minded thinking.
There are plenty of good teachers at VHS. It is time to weed out the bad ones! "

02 Grad wrote on Oct 23, 2008 9:54 AM:

" I remember the basketball incident. My brother was there when it happened. And I saw what Randy looked like afterward. And regardless that Randy drove a lot of people crazy, not just teachers, there was no reason for that to happen and unfortunately, that wasn't the extent of Mr. Noland's abuse.

I actually heard that the reason the school kept him on was because he was related to the principal or something like that. But you know how gossip runs through a high school.

I honestly don't understand why he didn't get fired for throwing the basketball at Randy. Because you know if he were at any other school, he would have been fired shortly thereafter. "

To Mad Mom Defender wrote on Oct 23, 2008 8:01 AM:

" If I have a problem with one or two teachers then they are the ones with the problem. But if she attacks all the teachers and has nothing positive to say about anybody then who really has the problem? 100% of the teachers? Or the complainer? I can't stand Noland but there a ton of great people that care in Vale high school. And to have one angry lady put a bad name on the school as a whole is really irresponable. Great teachers like Jacobs, Seals, Redman, Eyler, Trask, and many others that deserve our praise and not our pissing and moaning. She is the one with the problem. Not the great teachers who give so much time to helping kids. Don't let one jerk like Noland ruin it for the rest of the great people helping our kids be better. Many times they bare the responsibility of raising our kids because people with no accountability wont. "

To the man wrote on Oct 22, 2008 8:00 PM:

" To the man that is blasting the "mad mom" gee why don't you leave her alone and her son. I would probly bet your one of those good old boy teacher's at Vale High. Cause it sounds like you have a male chauvinist pig attitude telling the woman that her and her son have the problem. That sounds like a Noland statement. "

Also a Teacher wrote on Oct 22, 2008 3:13 PM:

" As a 30-year veteran, I can tell you that reputation is everything. It is clear from these blogs that Mr. Nolan has a reputation for rough handling of students. Maybe he is a father-figure and has had a positive effect on many students. Maybe he is a good teacher. Maybe he is a productive teacher with the highest test scores in the school. But Mr. Nolan must know, as we public school teachers all know, that physical contact of any sort with students is no longer acceptable. He has crossed that boundary, and for this reason should be forced out of the business. "

toteach wrote on Oct 22, 2008 2:14 PM:

" Just so you know, the good old boy syndrome isn't only in Vale but Adrian too. They had a few teachers a while back and a super that should of been gone years before they retired but when they are allowed to stay for so many years, it's hard to get rid of them. My daughter couldn't wait to get thru school as she was shy and they played on this. I tried to teach her to just keep to herself and get thru and she did. TG! But yes, you cannot take it out on all the teachers at the school as there were many that were very good to her. "

Former student in the 90s wrote on Oct 22, 2008 11:15 AM:

" I can't believe all the crap I am reading!!! Why all of a sudden is Matt Hawley the bad guy? What does Frank Hawley and his football teams sportmanship have to do with any of this? Mr. Noland is not and was not a football coach! Good Lord people! I know I respected him in school. It wasn't so much that I was afraid of him but I also din't want to be on the wrong side of him. How is that any different than anyone? If you aren't screwing up than there is no need to be afraid. I am a past female student of his. He wasn't any harder on the boys than he was us. Mr. Noland is and was a great coach. He was a father figure too. I am sorry if this isn't what you want to hear but isn't that what this is for? To express our opinions? My thoughts are with Mr. Noland's wife and family in this awful time. "

To Mad Mom wrote on Oct 22, 2008 10:50 AM:

" By the way, after each period you should put a space there before the next word. Since you want to help me with my lack of vacabulary I thought I could help you with your grammar. "

To Mad Mom wrote on Oct 22, 2008 10:43 AM:

" By the way I am not a woman. I hate mister Noland. I think he is the biggest jerk in the world. But to blast the other teachers and give them ALL a bad name is crazy. Name some names if you have problems instead of labeling the whole group of teachers. Some great people are at that school and I wont have you lump them all in the same group as that jerk Noland. Like I said if you have a problem with all the teachers there maybe its you or your kid that really is the problem and not them. "

Parent of former student wrote on Oct 22, 2008 4:06 AM:

" Even though Matt Hawley was not Superintendent when the prior incident of the broken nose happened, he was at the high school. He has to be aware of that incident. For him to say Noland was not investigated for this type of incident before is BUNK! Abuse is abuse in any form. He should have been out of there at that time or likely before. The school district nor the board should be involved in any investigation of this matter. As mentioned before, there are too many relatives or at least good ole' boys in either case to be impartial. "

mad mom wrote on Oct 21, 2008 10:49 PM:

" To the mother that responded October 16, my son didnt get an F.So shut up and get your story straight. What I am saying is this is a good old boy school and Noland is not the only bad egg in the bunch. When a teacher puts down a child, slams a child or just flat out hazes that child then yes we have other teacher like NOLAND. Mental and physiacally abused is one in the same.So tell me lady would it be ok if a teacher hazed your child, mentally or physically harmed them. If you dont know what these big words mean let me know and I will explain. MAD MOM "

1986 VHS Graduate wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:40 PM:

" Give the man his day in court! I cannot believe all the anger that is going on! It is real easy to point the finger. But you need to remember that three fingers are pointing back at you and we ALL have opportunities within ourselves. I have seen and been on the receiving end of Mr. Noland mental abuse but it didn't make me hate the guy. As a matter of fact, I have a lot of respect for Mr. Noland. He has made me a stronger person today. Maybe the parents should parent their child so the teachers would have too. Do you forget what you were like when you were in High School? I am sure a teacher or two would have loved to take you behind the wood shed a few times because your parents didn’t. A true Christian would lend a hand to Mr. Noland instead of hang him. Thank you Mrs. Sharp, Mr. Hawley, Ms. Dobney, Mr. Eyler, Mr. Jacobs, and Mr. Paulson for coming back to Vale to teach our kids. "

Fruitland Alum wrote on Oct 21, 2008 5:46 PM:

" We had a few nut cases in our high school, too. One guy who taught P.E. used to load us up in a bus, drive us out of town 3 or 4 miles and make us run back to school in time for our next class. Every day. That was the extent of his teaching--running p.e. class like a boot camp exercise. As I was stumbling back to school, right after I puked and right before I collapsed, I remember thinking, "If I ever have kids, I'm not going to allow anyone to treat them like this." I haven't either. It sounds like the Vale parents waited a little too long to get involved. I hope they get the job done and get this bully out of the profession. And, by the way, being in the union will help take care of Noland's legal representation, but that doesn't mean he'll win in court. His aggressive behavior is unacceptable by any standard. This guy is a goner. "

Get Rid of Him wrote on Oct 21, 2008 5:30 PM:

" Mr. N. sounds like one of those old school teachers that used to be in every high school when I was growing up. Thinks he can gain respect by behaving aggressively toward students. It wasn't a good model in the 70's and it's an even worse one now. It's really a shame that someone like this can find a job in any public school, but there are still quite a few of the old dinosaurs around. And some of them are women! "

To Sinnders wrote on Oct 21, 2008 1:24 PM:

" I know that there are plenty of teachers who are happy that Noland is getting his. "

Really wrote on Oct 21, 2008 9:42 AM:

" Mr. Hawley has not been superintendent long and was not superintendent when the basketball incident happened. Get facts right or don't add to blog. "

Sinnders wrote on Oct 21, 2008 7:11 AM:

" I say this is what the blogs are for.

To all of the people calling past kids sissy, stupid, complainers etc. for not going straight to the police about all of this, but mentioning the abuse on the blogs… for years the police dept ran in such a way that only the "in" crowd could get anything resolved with them. Surprise! They no longer exist! For two... the guy got away with breaking a kids nose for goodness sake!!!! Do you not see that as a huge neon sign saying "Look! I can get away with anything" Teenagers seeing all of this behavior, and never seeing any repercussion for it... well gee I would think they would come to the conclusion that there's nothing they can do. Coming to that conclusion or having it stamped on your face with a basketball either way, the message has been getting across to students for years.
Noland does what he wants, when he wants. Deal with it, or get punished.

Well, now the police dept. is gone, and the good old boys Gestapo unit isn't as tight. I applaud the parents who had the courage to stand up, regardless of the consequences. (And yes, in Vale there will be plenty of consequences for those brave people.) "

Voice from the past wrote on Oct 20, 2008 9:06 PM:

" Tim Noland and Matt Hawley are one in the same. Typical Vale stuff-rednecks. "

JJ wrote on Oct 20, 2008 7:30 PM:

" I just had to weigh in on this. Its hard to go after someone coaching in the Vale school district when they are all related. Do you think Noland's behavior didn't reach the superintendents office? Good Ol Boy network runs rampant in Vale. Thank God we (ONTARIO)stomped Vale 4 years running during the Hawley years. No team exhibited poorer sportmanship than Hawley led teams after a loss, even Matt himself. I question his character and the fact he knew full well of his behavior from day one. I don't feel sorry for anybody from Vale when it comes to coaches, love to see them lose in everything they do and I always will. "

toteach wrote on Oct 20, 2008 7:44 AM:

" This teacher should pay for what he has done! One comment to the person that wrote about a certain female teacher that danced with male students, so what? Is your mind in a gutter or are you jealous? Did anything take place out of hand or do you even know? Are you starting rumors? Do you know how many times kids have asked teachers to dance, just for a joke? Why make anything out of it? I have danced with many students and they or I thought nothing of it, or did the parents! You are in a small community where everyone knows everyone so big deal! Grow up and get a life! "

Kimi Kimi wrote on Oct 19, 2008 8:38 PM:

" I hope Noland gets what he has coming to him..... "

Vale Grad wrote on Oct 19, 2008 4:52 PM:

" Mr. Noland is the worst teacher. He is a complete angry man that should not be around students. Its about time these issuses of abuse come in the open. Its been hidden for so long. He treats his kids horribly as well. I'm glad the family of the victim finally stood up! We should be supporting the kid he hurt. Noland needs to be locked up!!! Who throws a basketball at a kids face and gets away with it? Or forces a kid to run 2 miles becuase they passed gas on accident doing a push up.... If Noland was living in portland he would be in jail for sure! "

To jiggy wrote on Oct 19, 2008 8:28 AM:

" Mr. Noland is a horrible teacher. Mean punk.

But your son sounds like a wuss. He has himself to blame for quitting. Do you make your kids responsible for their actions or are you an enabler? Your kid quit because HE quit. You are didn't stand up for him because YOU didn't stand up for him. Take personal responsibility and maybe Noland would have had to do that himself. No doubt Noland is an...butt, but your son has no accountability. "

Former VHS student... wrote on Oct 18, 2008 11:11 PM:

" I wasn't assaulted by Mr. Noland, but I witnessed first hand him breaking another students nose at basketball practice, with a basketball. This type of behavior should not be tolerated at any extent. I was a student of VHS until I was assault in a class full of students. I am disgusted with Mr. Hawley for not taking this more serious. "

get jiggy with it wrote on Oct 18, 2008 5:22 PM:

" I can't believe some of the idiot postings I am reading. I lived in Vale for 6 yrs. and my son graduated from Vale High School. The students were afraid of Mr. Nolands power. This is why they didn't take it further. My son, begged me not to step in and take care of mr Noland myself. I wanted to tell him off so bad I could barely stand it. I know this for sure: I sent a note for my son not to participate in PE. activities due to an illness. He refused to keep him out without a Dr.s note. He was mean to my son, his friends, etc.... My son quit a sport that he was coaching due to being treated crappy. Although, I agree kids can get out of hand etc.... they also have rights.No teacher has the right to abuse a student. I don't care what happened in the Good Ole' Days.How can anyone say he is a good coach and teacher?? I say Bull!! The things that go on at Vale High School are not typical of schools. I have friends that are teachers in 3 states and told them about a few things that happened while I lived there. They couldn't believe it. Like what you say....... Mr. Nolands actions for one.Another being a certain female teacher that dances with the male students at High School dances. Who does that?? No teacher anywhere else that I've lived. Are you kidding about Vale not being all about sports. Football to be exact. Wake up people. I feel bad for Mr. Nolands family . However, He brought this on. People are using this blog because it is here provided by the Argus. "

Grad of Vale wrote on Oct 17, 2008 11:35 PM:

" Oh come on this sort of abuse has been going on for years and years. I can remember when things like this happened in 1st grade. Now kids are taught that this is wrong. I wasn't in the popular group and I wasn't in sports and teachers don't hate you if you don't have the right name. All teachers want is to have you learn what they are teaching you. I had Mr.Noland and yes he would yell but teenagers are hell to deal with. If he did put his hands on a student it was wrong but like I said this has been going on for a long time. Just ask the old timers. Look at the subs that they used to bring in I think I only have to say one name Mr. Wilkins. He was very verbally abusive but everyone loved him and thought it was funny to give him a hard time. I had a great time in high school and I also got into trouble its part of life get over it! And remember this is Vale king of the rumor mill! I liked Mr.Noland even if he was mean at times. He could also be caring! People who whine about the sports were jealous they weren't playing! "

Spectator wrote on Oct 16, 2008 6:10 PM:

" I have observed Tim Noland for the entire time he has been at Vale. He definitely demeaned players and students from the very first. Verbally for sure, I never witnessed physical abuse. Why did I not step in? I don't believe it was my place. I was not a parent or even a member of the community. Still...plenty have had the opportunity and I do believe the school has turned a blind eye to what has been happening. Kudos to the parents who have stepped up and have taken a stand.
I feel sorry for his family. One can certainly understand why his oldest son seemed to have a grudge on his shoulders. Noland has evidently ligthened up as he "matured" but his wife must be a saint.
At the very least, he should be removed from the classroom and coaching. He clearly cannont be trusted with our youth. Some role model he is. I feel for his family.
On another note, I sure wish those posting would get their facts straight. So much untruth on here, not all of it, but plenty.
Hopefully the justice system and Vale School authorities will handle this properly.
And another observation: Vale has some really great teachers through all grades.Unfortunately, one bad apple...
Some of the most rude people I have encountered in public are teachers, and not just those from Vale. Those few taint the reputation of them all.
And no, sports are not the end all at Vale, important yes. "

To Vale Mother wrote on Oct 16, 2008 7:30 AM:

" Ok...What teacher gave your kid an "F". Stop babying your little baby and get over it. The teachers at the school are great. One bad guy doesn't give you the right to blast the others. If you have been so hurt then name some names and let the world know. If not then shut up. "

Vale mother wrote on Oct 15, 2008 7:25 PM:

" Vale is just a good a old boy school. Yes, there is alot of good teachers but you do have alot teacher's that have anger problems like Noland. They want to be the big cheese run our children in the ground, be little them etc. When you talk to administrators well they cant do any thing about it.Our children have to respect the teachers so why cant the teachers respect our chilren.Believe me there is alot of good kids out there. "

To VHS grad student wrote on Oct 15, 2008 6:00 PM:

" Please get your facts correct.

Hawley Stadium is not named after Superintendent, Matt Hawley...it was named after his father, who WAS a great coach and inspiration. Matt Hawley was also NOT a football coach who brought in championships. He helped in the background...but never *thee* head coach.

Matt Hawley is a local...and like many locals he too doesn't like this for his community or school. Policy is policy and although Noland has slipped through the cracks before...I believe that the Admin will do everything possible get rid of Noland. This time the DA will help them do it. There is no hiding. Mr. Hawley was not part of the Admid when the issues happened before. "

VHS Graduate wrote on Oct 15, 2008 2:34 PM:

" Vale is a good ol'boy town from way back. If you had the right last name you could play sports. If you made waves you were in BIG trouble. There were and are many good teachers in Vale but the problem is that the behavior of the bad ones are often covered up or excused away. If the teacher is a coach he can get away with almost anything. Sports is number one in Vale. Music is now out, cheerleaders are out, just bring home the trophies and the state championship banners. In every school coached use language on the field that a classroom teacher would get fired for. Noland has been teaching for 28 years and it has taken this long for his violent nature to be publicly known. Those of us who suffered Arritola's abuse will never see justice served. Most of the classes in high school are required for graduation and some teachers keep putting that fact in students faces that they have to obey and shut up or they will not graduate. And when the teachers have it out for you then you will not graduated from Vale. My brother had to go to a different high school to graduate after he go "labeled". If you don't believe me about sports being number one just remember that the football field is named after Matthew Hawley who is now the district superintendent. As football coach he had enough winning seasons to make it to the top. Have you seen the statue of Arnie Lewis? Sports, especially football is number one and coaches can do no wrong. "

To former student wrote on Oct 15, 2008 1:52 PM:

" Does Vale have an Junior College program, for gods sake man, how long did you go to high school. 1992-1999, that is a long time. People like you are why others make fun of Vale. I hope you didn't go to college, or maybe you still are? IDIOT "

John Doe wrote on Oct 15, 2008 11:32 AM:

" I am sure some teachers in the school would have given kids better grades. Its not like he is loved all around. I know teachers that can't stand the guy. "

Victims are trapped in small town wrote on Oct 15, 2008 10:35 AM:

" The abuse that Mr. Noland perpetrated and the other attrocities in Vale's Schools are not a secret. Many victims DID say something. Don't act like you don't know how things work in Vale, and most small towns. Standing up and telling everyone what these guys do is risky! You complain about a coach and the consequences were immense. Other teachers would give you a hard time, your grades would suffer, your parent's were harrassed about it, you had to hear crap at the grocery store and your burger at Starlite would have spit in it. One of Vale's biggest assets is that it is tight knit. BUT that is also it's biggest weakness. You fart and everyone knows it. "

To feeling bad wrote on Oct 15, 2008 10:32 AM:

" It is our job or Noland's job to worry about his daughter? I feel that he should treat people better then his daughter wouldn't have to go through anything.

With all this violence who knows what his kids go through. Maybe more truths will come out. And she can be protected.

Its not us that made the situation. It him!!!! "

Former Student wrote on Oct 15, 2008 9:50 AM:

" This is so long overdue, and there are many other investigations that need to be done in that school. Is anyone going to say anything about the coaches/teachers sleeping with the cheerleaders and other students? I saw it between 1992-1999. I guess Vale may catch up with the times afterall.
Let's see them straighten out the system! "

From Vale wrote on Oct 15, 2008 9:26 AM:

" Why is it that most of you posting blogs on here on telling us that you are victims of Tim Noland...the only way you become a vitim is to allow yourself to be a victim. If he did what you said he did to you and or your friends, then why was nothing said about it then? If you were treated so bad and or even hurt by Tim then why did you and your family not contact the police? If you contacted the School and felt nothing was done, no action was taken...then take matters into your own hands when it happened. ( Not posting blogs about it years later.) Ya maybe Tim yells a lot, maybe he even has a problem, and yes maybe even your little boy or girl might not be perfect...but who is? I am not, Tim is not and I am 100% that kids are not. Lets think about his family. I know Tim has a daughter that is still in school, and she is a VERY NICE YOUNG LADY...and the young "victim" is also in that same school...I don't see the Nolands or others on here posting blogs about the victim and their troubles (if any) I hope all works out for the best, and if Tim has a problem then I hope he gets help. He REALLY his a great coach and teacher. "

Feeling Bad wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:39 AM:

" Well one thing I think we all need to remember is that he has a family and a daughter that still attends school. Out of respect for his family we all need to keep our opinions to ourselves and let the legal system take care of it. Keep our mouth shut!!! "

To Vale wrote on Oct 14, 2008 7:32 AM:

" Why did this take so long. If he is such a bad person, and it has happened so many times then what the hell is going on. Let me guess. It is vale and the sports teams were winning, was i close. Is this the first teacher with a problem, or do a few other, coach-teachers have problems? Just wondering "

Vale Parent wrote on Oct 13, 2008 7:36 PM:

" Its unfortunate the Mr. Noland has such a problem. He is very talented in his fundamentals as a coach in sports, but unfortunately he has a huge anger problem. I too have heard stories from my own children, when he is *picking* on a student that isn't doing a *pushup* right or strong enough to pull the string all the way back on an bow. I hope the school/admin and DA can finally get rid of him. Why the school didn't get rid of him when he threw the basketball at R.Moore and broke his nose I have no idea...but its time to wake up Vale Admin/school board!! The kid he hurt this time is a nice/respectable kid...this isn't about uncontrolable Vale students...its about a teacher who has had too many chances and thinks he can't be touched. "

Jessie Dixon wrote on Oct 13, 2008 3:06 PM:

" He ain't no count acting that way. He ought to know better than to act like that. I reckon the good lord will judge him accordingly. "

Ontario Mom wrote on Oct 13, 2008 11:17 AM:

" This guy sounds like a raving lunatic!!What took Vale so long to get him out of there?? Is Vale that hard up for teachers that it keeps such mental cases aboard? Hope this guy does some time! "

Vale mom wrote on Oct 13, 2008 10:39 AM:

" As a parent of a Vale students. I do not believe Vale Students are out of control. If a child or two does get out of hand they call the police. If children are hauled out of schools for stealing, harrassing, and assault. Teachers should be removed the same way. Vale School employees have always be way too friendly and clicky. They cover way too much up and forget that it is a public school and should not be used as their own social society. We have many good teachers at Vale. Teachers, school board, counselors, and the adminstration, should have been the ones maintaining a safe a proper enviroment instead of turning their backs to this long overdue problem. Maybe this is what we needed to be more understanding of our children. Noland as a role model would sure have children reacting in a harrassing, menacing way to be heard and believed. "

Former VHS Student wrote on Oct 13, 2008 7:31 AM:

" A child should never fear a teacher. Teacher's should have control of their classroom and respect from their students. I agree that there are a lot of kids who are out of line and that should be taken care of by the school administration or school board. I have witnessed first hand what Mr. Noland has done to students. He is verbally abusive and I have also watched him come up to students and smack them on the head or throw stuff at them.
I applaud the parents who have come forward and filed charges against him. This should have been done a long time ago. ( like the time he threw the basketball at a kids face as hard as he could) I hope Mr. Noland loses his job, he has no business being around children. I have two kids in school and I don't ever want that man near them. "

One who knows wrote on Oct 12, 2008 2:50 PM:

" Noland is not a bad person but has no business being around students. The school has taken the easy way out far too long. Get tough, administration, and do what is right for the students!! You know all of the history....and there is a lot!!
It would be better to allow the insurance company to pay him off than for him to be around any more students. "

Finally wrote on Oct 12, 2008 8:09 AM:

" The time has come, someone finally took the matter to the police. It's out of the District's and Union's hands. :O) I can't believe it took so long! "

Stand up to him wrote on Oct 11, 2008 5:56 PM:

" I stood up to him and he backed down. Kids can't do it. But as a parent if you get in his face he cowers like a little dog.

Abusive people will be abuse to those they can because they are scared of the people they can't be abusive to.

I am glad I got in his face and made him fear like he has done to so many kids.

No matter how tough you think you are there is always somebody tougher and he learned that with me. "

Former Student wrote on Oct 11, 2008 5:15 PM:

" It has been 17 years since I attended Vale High and my friend and I had a song that we would sing about Mr. Noland. It was to the tune of "Rawhide". You know the song with the cracking of the whip and goes "Rollin rollin rollin keep them doggies rollin, head em up, move em out Rawhide.(I may be off on how it goes but you get the idea). Well, being the creative kids we were we changed the lyrics around and it went something like this. "Noland Noland Noland keeps his class a rollin... Noland, beat-em up kick-em out, kick-em out beat-em up, Noland".

It was fitting then and it seems to be a fitting song now. I guess something just don't change. "

Former student in the 90s wrote on Oct 11, 2008 3:50 PM:

" I too agree...These kids are out of control. I was a student and basketball player of Noland's and I remember how it was. Yes he was verbally abusive in some peoples eyes. We even heard that he made us cry. Which he didn't. I agree that kids need to be taught respect and he did that as far as I am concerned. I am sorry if someone got hurt at his hands. At the same time, I am sorry for all his famiy must going through. Respect out of fear isn't always bad. "

Another former student wrote on Oct 10, 2008 10:15 PM:

" People can lay blame on tattle tales, but it is because they do not want to see the truth. The truth is, from personal expierence, not only being a witness but also being a victim. Students in the past have come forward to the principal, but were told they couldn't do anything about it or they had mistaken his actions. No matter how many witnesses a person has, he still won. Even when it comes to Noland given kids broken noses, yes, purposely broken noses. What about the sexual abuse he gave the girls? Oh ya, I am sure people will say it is their own fault, always is right? Oh, what about his own kids, never good enough for him. There is something that totaly clicks in his head at the snap of the fingers and he is in a whole new violent world of his, and when he comes out of it he denies it. Not sure whether he really doesn't remember his actions, but if that is the case, he should not be around kids in any way. Talk about split personalities. And as for this case he is being tried for, the physical evidence and the witnesses well overrides everything he is. The comment made in one of these blogs about kids being out of control, yes, to some point I agree. BUT, that person has never come to Vale. I dont care what the kid does, they do not deserve the abuse. That is why they have a principal's office. And as for punishments for the students in Vale, a kid can skip one class, and still be at the school, get suspension. Now is that a slap on the wrist? No, that is a good rule system the school has. So if it is anything worse the punishment is much worse. We are not OHS, or Boise schools to have the problems they have. Our community is tight. While this is not the first time things have been brought up, it is the first time, I believe, a parent was strong enough and not afraid of what people may say in order to get justice for all that man has done. When a student had come forth in the past, they were always told that they must have misunderstood what he said. No matter how mant witnesses they had or bruises or broken bones. What more do people want? Wait for him do actually kill or mangle a child? "

Another Past Victim wrote on Oct 10, 2008 2:29 PM:

" Lock him up and throw away the key. "

A victim wrote on Oct 10, 2008 2:25 PM:

" I too was a victim of his verbal abuse. I was a shy quiet (female) on his basketball team. I was verbally abused (loudly) in front of all the other teammates, forced to do push-ups, etc. Glad someone has come forward. Hopefully he can get some help now! "

Former Student VHS wrote on Oct 10, 2008 1:13 PM:

" I was in Mr. Noland's classes and saw first hand the verbal abuse that he handed out. I never did see physical abuse, but have heard of it. He is the reason that my family did not play sports in high school. I wonder if he is this way at school, how is he at home? I feel bad for all involved....including Tim. "

ICON wrote on Oct 10, 2008 12:18 PM:

" Like Sully Days At OHS! "

Expert wrote on Oct 10, 2008 11:43 AM:

" Would have done no good. Schools can not get rid of a teacher because they are over protected by Unions. Now this man is also the head of the union in Vale. It is less of a fiscal threat to keep him around than protect the kids. We may say shame on Vale but they are doing what all district with poor or abusive teachers. Keep them rather than lose the fight and money to get rid of them.

By the way I understand that he strong arms other teachers to join the union as well. "

01 graduate wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:27 AM:

" I honestly think if all of you former students or players think he was so bad, maybe you should have stood up and said something 20 years ago instead of talking a bunch of crap about him now. "

Adam Scott wrote on Oct 10, 2008 7:05 AM:

" This is a long overdue action by the highschool. When I attended Vale 15 years ago this man was abusive, both verbally and physically. It gave me a warm fuzzy feeling to read the article in the paper. "

IggyIsBliss wrote on Oct 10, 2008 5:24 AM:

" You know, if you've have experience with somebody abusing you, no one will do anything about it until a crisis precipitates a lot of tsk-tsks on a blog. Watch out for the next episode of Guns-Gone-Wild coming to a Tv near you. "

Exiled wrote on Oct 9, 2008 7:40 PM:

" You know, if you've have experience with somebody abusing you, you should go to the police, not gripe about it in a blog. "

Vale mom wrote on Oct 9, 2008 7:09 PM:

" It's about time!! Anyone who has watched Mr. Noland coach a game or had a child in his class can tell you that this is long over due. This man is a bully and should have been called on his horrible behavior towards kids a long time ago. "

Former Noland Student wrote on Oct 9, 2008 4:10 PM:

" It is about time he was formally investigated!! I have witnessed and been a victim of Mr. Noland's outrageous behavior when I attended Vale High School. He was my volleyball coach and he was physically and verbally abusive to us. When a few of us went to the head volleyball coach to complain, we were told to "toughen up". In practice he use hit us as hard as he could with volleyballs as punishment. Sometimes he would hit us in the head. If we moved or tried to duck, he would make us run laps. On several occasions, I witnessed him shoving girls to the ground that were afraid to dive for the volleyball. He said it was to "help them with their fear of diving for the ball”. Several times in PE he use to hack this boy in front of the class just because he would go to his left instead of his right during stretching. (That was when teachers could physically discipline kids in school.) He was a big bully with authority when I went to school and it sounds like nothing has changed. "

Former Student wrote on Oct 9, 2008 3:07 PM:

" This is certainly not the first time he has ever tried this kind of thing.....someone just finally had the foresight to do something about it. I attended VHS almost 20 years ago and as a female student was not subjected to his physical assualt but witnessed it numerous times and watched him leer at the female students continually. Thank god VHS had finally come out of the dark ages and realized that students are valued and have rights as citizens! "

These kids are out of control wrote on Oct 9, 2008 2:44 PM:

" Has anyone been in a high school lately? These kids are out of control. They have absolutely no respect for the staff or other students and do whatever they please with little to no punishment.

When I went to school, kids didn't taunt teachers, bring guns to school, etc because if they were to get caught, they got a beating they would never forget. They either respected a teacher because of the job they were doing and because of the fact that they are an elder, or they respected them out of fear.

Everyone is sue happy these days, "how dare you touch my kid" etc. Well...maybe your kid needed to be slapped around a little as I'm sure if they were doing what they had been asked, there never would have been any incident.

But again, parents these days think their kids can do no wrong and everyone is looking for a free ride in life.

Call it abuse, call it whatever you want, but I rememeber being able to go to school and not worrying about getting shot or stabbed by some punk kid. Kids will be kids and they do need to be given some breathing room for some immature acts because thats what kids do and that's what makes them kids, but for the past 20 years, control has been lost and these immature acts have turned into violent crimes.

Same thing has happened in our prisons. I have many family members and friends working at SRCI and it is no joke...the inmates have more rights as incarcerated criminals than we do as law-abidding citizens. It's almost like we are rewarding bad behavior in an indirect way. "

susan pilon wrote on Oct 9, 2008 2:42 PM:

" It is unfortunate that Mr. Noland,s actions towards his students haven't been brought out in the open before.
It is well known, that he has treated his students like crap. The school district is also to blame for putting on blinders when it comes to Tim Noland. "

parent of another victim wrote on Oct 9, 2008 1:59 PM:

" This is not the first time this has happened. A few years ago our child was a victim of Mr. Nolands temper, at that time the district took no action other than to send him to anger management classes. Hopefully this time they will do better, before someone gets seriously injured "

Heard it before wrote on Oct 9, 2008 12:31 PM:

" What a load of crap! Noland may not have been investigated for “this specific type of occurrence” before, but he has certainly been in this kind of trouble before. Why does the Vale School District want to take such a risk on this loser? Oh, I forgot, it's not their risk. Once again, it's the kids who take the risk. He has quite a reputation as a hot-head and an a**h**e with countless instances of verbal abuse and probably plenty of physical ones that never made it out of the school building. If I'm not mistaken, he was gone for a while after another similar situation was brought into the light several years ago. Then it looked like they brought him back afer the majority of the kids involved in that BS were out of school and their parents weren't around to complain. It wouldn't take much investigation to show this guy is a menace and a danger to the kids. When is it enough, Vale? Which kid does he have to give ANOTHER bloody nose to or worse before you get rid of him. He needs to go work at the prison or some place where he can pick on someone his own size. Only losers take out their aggressions on kids and this guy is the King! "

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